Path of Exile: Keepers of The Flame - Bloodline Ascendancy Classes

Get these poe 2 downsides outta here!

Please consider that these cost 2 ascendancy points to use. A lot of these are conditional and even when I consider the balance with the condition assumed to be met by default, the upside is still not worth 2 points? For example some of the farrul beast spectre nodes, you give up having multiple perfect spectres because it has to be a beast spectre so that's easily minus 2 auras (1 instead of 3) for the benefits shown which isn't really that good, and on to the downside you have to solve the condition of keeping the spectre alive on a non minion build which is a lot of investment (the buffs I assume are intended for supporting a player, rather than for pure minion damage builds). So it works out to being a very conservative buff in the niche of cases for 2 ascendancy points. Normally you'd just get a twice as strong buff without these downsides.

the worthless king in the mist has you give up better items to use an extra ring and so you might rarely find a build that benefits, but any benefit is going to be barely squeaked out, so for the cost of 2 ascendancy points you're not going to find a single build that benefits more than taking other ascendancy nodes.

edit: I'll talk about the aul ones. No build benefits from these not even armor stackers if they got the point for FREE, no ascendancy points costed. They actually want the frenzy charges more than 50% grace effect. 50% aura affect on single aura is very low. How to fix? First consider what ascendancy nodes would normally look like, +1 charge and +some benefit. Every ascendancy node that had +1 charge needed extra benefits to make it worth taking. Plus 1 charge of your choice, and plus 50% aura affect of that aura. It's still going to be niche trust me, +1 frenzy + 50% grace effect isn't enticing enough to swing over 95% of players into picking it. It would still be a niche thing to choose this.

Can we get something for totems pls

Damn there's some crazy good nodes out there. Can't wait to see some new builds coming this league.

Another league where spell totems and RF should be content for not getting nerfed I guess. Instead of a dot bloodline we got a minion one and pseudo minion bloodline. Probably another league to skip for me and this is the 3rd league I skip. PoE 2/10 slowly seeping into PoE 1. Ground loot nerfed, bloodlines have downsides and specific playstyles are slowly getting erased.

Good luck for anyone who's going to play.

YASSSSSSS

The delirium ascendency reminds me of the harbinger one from the event.

ALOT OF POTENTIAL but it's absolute niche or awful in most practices seems.

Dead on arrival several of those ascendencies. The idea is cool but these need a dire re-tunning pass/check before live.

please stop using the poe 2 team "balancer" they are not very good at it.

My post about bloodlines was deleted, as "overly negative".
I will try to write an opinion that "adheres to forum rules".

I as most other people on these 27 pages before me, do not see much value or use in any of the given ascendancy options for any of the build I know/played myself, and the take this point but above spending point also lose this and that, sounds like a poor game design choice.

Initially, I thought this would be a good option to boost those ascendancies/builds that have 2-3 top notch notables (4-6 points), so you can sync it with new ascendancies with extra 2-4 points in them. But in reality, even mid points in normal ascendancies are vastly better, with no downsides compared to what is offered. On top of reduced loot/reduced farm.

I will still play 3.27, I am just not sure how long I will be able to stick to it.

I slept over it and noticed that putting downsides in Ascendancies is the most POE2-thing one could do. Please don't do that. There might be useful points, but seeing and reading downsides hurt my feelings.