0.3 support gem changes opinions.

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Skellymancer#5263 wrote:

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Gery0724#5426 wrote:

Hey there! What are you oppinions about the 0.3 support gem changes ? I mean especially the one where they potentialy remove that you can only equip one gem of each type.

FIRST: It makes 90% of the support gems useless.

Right now the "diversity" of builds lies in the fact, that when you run out of "good gems", you start adding "situational gems" or "synergy gems", or "utility" so you can complete your build.

SECOND: Balance issue for weapon skills.

Say you play crossbow. If you have unlimited support gems.
What is stopping you from adding Ballista to every single crossbow build?

Absolutely nothing. Added X damage? Free. Concentrated effect for more damage? Free. Duration support? free.

It is complete bullshit.
They will have to deal with this for the next few patches.

Edit: Ballista scale with two handed mod, ranged damage, etc. Stuff that you will be stacking for any crossbow build.

THIRD: Balance issues within the build choices.

Say you are warrior. You have 3 physical skills.
Since you will be sticking "MORE PHYSICAL" to all of them, all of them will be pre-nerfed from GGG part, so they do not over-perform.

So basically from 5 sockets, you will be forced to play effectively with 4 (or even less), because the skill damage will be hard locked and practically force you to stick the "MORE PHYSICAL" in every single one of them.

There is no fixing this...

If they went back to the original idea they proposed years ago (before the game came out) that said supports weren't going to be straight damage buffs, then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

But when you can put 5 different x% more damage buffs in your supports....why wouldn't you? It's an exponential math problem, with too many multipliers your damage goes too high to not have them.

Now if you had the choice between five different interaction bonuses (easy examples being Pierce, Fork, Chain, stuff like that), then it becomes versatility instead of pure damage bonuses.

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

Everyone is always so quick to doom and gloom.

If this change turns out to be a bad idea, you know what's going to happen?

In that case they will just revert the change in patch 0.4.0 and we move on with our lives.

It's not a bad idea, it's so good that made people (from what i can read here) love poe.
It's just the same idea on a game supposed to be different, so they said at least.

I understand that they want people to do skill rotation which is very cool, but since we can use 1 single skill to clear maps (see LS, LA, Galvanic Shards and other) and max two skills in a combo to take down pinnacle (rake+BH,galv+ shockburst, LR+LA and others) there no absolut need for a rotation.
Why would i use 5 skills with same %more damage multi when 1 or 2 skills do wonders already?

It will help other minor skills to do more damage of course but who gonna use permafrost bolt on a boss if you already have galvanic+shockburst?
It's going to push meta combo's power even more and give other skills some sort of usage imo.

Opens up new combo?
Will see what will happen on player's power with this changes but for me this move is not going to fix the core of problem, there are few skills that are very good and many others that are just bad.

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IILU81II#8410 wrote:

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

Everyone is always so quick to doom and gloom.

If this change turns out to be a bad idea, you know what's going to happen?

In that case they will just revert the change in patch 0.4.0 and we move on with our lives.

Opens up new combo?
Will see what will happen on player's power with this changes but for me this move is not going to fix the core of problem, there are few skills that are very good and many others that are just bad.

well it is a good ducking thing that this isn't the only changes being made to address problems is it?


do you not get that multiple system changes are happening? or do you just hyperfocus on one thing in a vacuum???

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thawn4444#3507 wrote:

well it is a good ducking thing that this isn't the only changes being made to address problems is it?


do you not get that multiple system changes are happening? or do you just hyperfocus on one thing in a vacuum???

It is good indeed, but you mind if i give a feedback on one thing i dont like?
I do love the rest of the changes tho, you more happy now?

An unbelievable amount of builds were already extremely overpowered without this. This probably just busted the game and made it almost unplayable. Can probably do 80% of the content naked with this change...in HC. This is really not good.