Settler's is definitely NOT for casuals

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exsea wrote:

was tired last night, did around 2-4 t16s normal (no mods).

dumped all the gold into my town.

estimated 20-30 minutes rent.

lol

all i have in kingsmarch running are disenchanters/miners/smelters/farmers.

i m not even doing mapping/shipping.

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Sadaukar wrote:

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exsea wrote:

was tired last night, did around 2-4 t16s normal (no mods).

dumped all the gold into my town.

estimated 20-30 minutes rent.

lol

all i have in kingsmarch running are disenchanters/miners/smelters/farmers.

i m not even doing mapping/shipping.

I wanted to ask why u would do white T16 maps, but after looking at ur characters I knew. U really like ur uniques, don't u?^^

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jsuslak313 wrote:

Spoiler

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

From the Oxford English dictionary:
Casual, noun.
a person who does something irregularly.
"a number of casuals became regular customers"

If you are spending more than an hour of your life every single day on the same activity, you do not have a casual engagement with it.

From the SAME dictionary:
without care, not worried about, unimportant to you, not permanent

It is very easy to choose only 1 part of a definition to "prove" some kind of point. In this particular instance, the REST of the definitions go against the point you are trying to make about the term. Using the SAME source.

I usually agree with your points, but this was a very poor showing.

Casual is not defined in the context it is being used here, and a dictionary is not going to provide you with ALL contexts. For example: you could indeed be considered a "casual" player, or have a "casual" engagement with the game while playing an hour every single day........because the non-casual player might be spending 4+ hours every single day. By comparison, the person spending an hour is absolutely "casual".

Now suppose you compare the 1hr/day player with a 1hr/week player. The latter might consider the former to be non-casual. The outside 4hr/day player might consider both of them varying degrees of casual. They would ALL be correct. It depends on the context.

A definition is not the same thing as a "fact": language is used and created with meaning AND context, and you can't just willingly ignore context when talking about a word's meaning. This is a pretty central point to basic reading classes, SAT questions, etc. It's called "reading comprehension". How is this word being used here? What is the meaning in the context of the entire passage?

Its also the reason why, when you look at something like the Oxford English Dictionary, there is never a singular definition. There are always multiple uses and multiple meanings because context can shift what the "definition" is.



Let's try a totally different example: what is a newbie? Oxford English definition is "a person who is new to a particular environment or activity and has little experience, especially in using computers". But what does that mean for PoE? How about compared to checkers? Is a person still a newbie with 100 hours of playtime, 1000? What constitutes "new"? If you spent 10000 hours playing acts 1 - 10, never progressing into maps, would you still be a "newbie" at the game? What if you spent all that time going from lvl 1 - 20 with 10k different toons?

Definitions don't ever give you the whole story, and are wildly unreliable to look at outside of context. They give you the foundation, but don't supply the meaning. I don't see anything in your quoted definition, or the rest of the definitions that say a "casual" MUST spend less than x amount of hours per day/week/time period at an activity.

A casual is not the same thing as an apple: one is a concept defined by its context, one is a very specific unique "thing".

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exsea wrote:

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Sadaukar wrote:

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exsea wrote:

was tired last night, did around 2-4 t16s normal (no mods).

dumped all the gold into my town.

estimated 20-30 minutes rent.

lol

all i have in kingsmarch running are disenchanters/miners/smelters/farmers.

i m not even doing mapping/shipping.

I wanted to ask why u would do white T16 maps, but after looking at ur characters I knew. U really like ur uniques, don't u?^^

i technically can do maps with tons of mods and dying once in a while does happen when i meet a bad combination of mods on rares. just that i didnt feel like wasting my time with death last night. but yeah, doing all uniques is something i like to do.

usually i delete everything until i dont lol