Will the Crucible League go Core?

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ratscroat wrote:

If they decide to remove multiple skills from the crucible trees, I'm fine with removing totems. But to single out a skill is ridiculous. They made in league adjustments to forging uniques, if totems needed adjusted it should have been done at the same time. Letting it go through the end of the league is just awful.

You know what is ridiculous? One shotting ubers with 70-100 div build that can also map and has rather decent defences. You are not crying over any justice, you are crying because you're not gonna be able to one-shot ubers, booohooo

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Palonso89 wrote:

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ratscroat wrote:

If they decide to remove multiple skills from the crucible trees, I'm fine with removing totems. But to single out a skill is ridiculous. They made in league adjustments to forging uniques, if totems needed adjusted it should have been done at the same time. Letting it go through the end of the league is just awful.

You know what is ridiculous? One shotting ubers with 70-100 div build that can also map and has rather decent defences. You are not crying over any justice, you are crying because you're not gonna be able to one-shot ubers, booohooo

You must be quite oblivious if you think anyone can do that. Those represent only a tiny fraction of the playerbase while the others will struggle way even more to achieve their goals.

And yes, if you spend 100 divines in a build you might want to oneshot bosses, thats the exact reason you spent such amount.

My most important question: will Forged Frostbearer go forgotten corpses list?
This one made spectre builds great again, want to continue with it next league

Oh good, we’re back to not having daily news.

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Riverwind77 wrote:

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Palonso89 wrote:

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ratscroat wrote:

If they decide to remove multiple skills from the crucible trees, I'm fine with removing totems. But to single out a skill is ridiculous. They made in league adjustments to forging uniques, if totems needed adjusted it should have been done at the same time. Letting it go through the end of the league is just awful.

You know what is ridiculous? One shotting ubers with 70-100 div build that can also map and has rather decent defences. You are not crying over any justice, you are crying because you're not gonna be able to one-shot ubers, booohooo

You must be quite oblivious if you think anyone can do that. Those represent only a tiny fraction of the playerbase while the others will struggle way even more to achieve their goals.

And yes, if you spend 100 divines in a build you might want to oneshot bosses, thats the exact reason you spent such amount.

I know this build better than you do it seems, you're probably playing chaos version which is way weaker in terms of DPS but phys to cold conversion Trickster annihilates everything on it's way - uber bosses included. And no, you are not supposed to one-shot everyhing for this low level of investment as it trivialises the game. Couple of mirros vs 100 div, that's compeltely different scale.

Exactly, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Thus more difficult builds get made for elite players to spread the gap.

I remember when these posts come with reasoning behind the decisions communicated to players when I played few years ago. Why you're no longer doing that anymore?

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soukun wrote:

I remember when these posts come with reasoning behind the decisions communicated to players when I played few years ago. Why you're no longer doing that anymore?

What needs explaining? This was the expected outcome from almost everyone not huffing the copium since the first few days of the league.

You Want to import a bunch of OP gear into standard? OK, but then don't nerf everything because some streamer clears a maps in 10 sec using it.

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You know what is ridiculous? One shotting ubers with 70-100 div build that can also map and has rather decent defences. You are not crying over any justice, you are crying because you're not gonna be able to one-shot ubers, booohooo

The most similar, non crucible tree dependent build, with a similar budget, that can one shot all ubers is a self-chill explosive trap trickster. The cold conversion variant of explode totems is not really that much cheaper than alternatives capable of the same or more.

It's really not that big of a deal man. Definitely not rising to the level of ridiculous. I'd probably reserve ridiculous for the SST build, which can literally tape down a key and AFK for 7 rewards in a sim30. That'll be impacted by the inevitable VC nerf though.

It just doesn't make any sense. There are stronger ST builds in standard (billions of DPS), and there are way faster builds in standard while stacking MF (explode totems is a mediocre mapper at best).

The only unique thing about explode totems was accessibility, especially for the PF poison variant. It was pretty low investment to put together an immortal PF that can kill everything. The trickster variant is no way near immortal until you invest heavily (like Rudy's delve sabo). Explode totems was just a good and cheap way to get DPS on a defensive focused character (like legacy seismic trap). It's not BiS in league let alone standard. It's just very popular due to accessibility (probably more do to with the PF rework). If the explode node was rarer (like say rampage), it wouldn't be nearly as popular (and way more expensive).

If you actually want to play standard full time, there are so many options that are just as good or better (MF is the way to go in standard for currency). Anyone who says otherwise simply has no clue what's available in standard or is intentionally misrepresenting the truth for whatever reason (economic I suspect).

Unless there's a significant technical investment required to copy over to standard, then absolutely everything in league should just go to standard. It's really that simple. There's not a hope in hell they can balance standard, so picking and choosing random stuff to void is just silly. Standard is like a trophy room where you can be nostalgic.

Also the ex -> div change showed us how little they care about the standard economy, so it just doesn't make sense. This isn't about balance, it's about some other concern GGG has, like participation in the next league I guess.

If they really wanted to balance standard then they would have deleted "Mantra of Flames" from the game completely for example. Like you're probably not reaching 5k depth on explode totems...