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Running skelly mages, anything I can improve until I can afford the crazy expensive cluster jewels?

Also running amulet of stars, Is there any changes to what supports we use with the amulet?
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Diemian wrote:
Running skelly mages, anything I can improve until I can afford the crazy expensive cluster jewels?

Also running amulet of stars, Is there any changes to what supports we use with the amulet?


A) Put "Death Attunement" on you Amulet = 5 free skill points
Carrion Golem is pretty useless with Skele Mages imho
You need a Cluster with "Blessed Rebirth"


B)

With my Ashes of the Stars Amulet (18% inc. Reservation eff. of Skills)
I now can use

- Determination
- Zealotry (with Generosity)
- Tempest Shield
- Defiance Banner
- Precision Level Lvl 6

And have 75 Mana (Summon Skeletons 36 Mana)

Hi all,

Looking for advice on the best flasks to use based on my mage skele build with mageblood.

Thanks
Last edited by GoochSmooch on Feb 17, 2022, 12:29:36 PM
On the topic of support minions, specifically for spider build but it applies to others too:

The problem is inconsistency. The golem and the spectres can survive most endgame boss fights without any problems, but some map bosses, harbingers, and occasionally random packs kill them instantly. This also means that healing on the minions wouldn't have helped.

In every case so far, including atlas bosses , I could just go on and let the unbuffed spiders finish the map, or the encounter.

This makes me wonder two things:

- Will the support minions be practically unkillable once fully minmaxed?

- If they are acting more like a win more buff and the spiders are powerful enough without them, is there anything else that could take their place? Maybe for added survival or situational boost to spider damage, similar to the vaal haste. Although I guess many people have been making similar builds for years and there isn't anything better :D
Anyone know the exact increase in dps for Awakened Spell Echo? does it worth the 20ex that is going for right know? , POB doesnt change the dps at all with the awakened version, also any opinions in Volley vs GMP vs Awakened GMP
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kayella wrote:
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Wuzlo wrote:
That's who I'm going for, sadly no luck yet. I'll update when I finally manage to get one so others can nab them too (If no one has them yet)


Do you still need it? I have it in my bank.


where are you getting demon harpies? i'm trying to see if they are in the standard drop pool. nobody seems to be able to tell me if they are or are not in the pool
poe is going down fast. Diablo 4 and Baldur's Gate 3 have no performance issues. play them instead
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Devilator wrote:
On the topic of support minions, specifically for spider build but it applies to others too:

The problem is inconsistency. The golem and the spectres can survive most endgame boss fights without any problems, but some map bosses, harbingers, and occasionally random packs kill them instantly. This also means that healing on the minions wouldn't have helped.

This makes me wonder two things:

- Will the support minions be practically unkillable once fully minmaxed?

- If they are acting more like a win more buff and the spiders are powerful enough without them, is there anything else that could take their place?


If you look at Top Players on poe.ninja some use AG and Golem and others don't

Ancient Skull has "Minions have 20-40% reduced max. Life"

Not a +2/+3 Minion Skill Lvl

And you have not +2 Minions Skill Level from Necro and not 20% inc. Life
and With the Dagger you have not +1 Minions Skill gems / +1 spell gems from a wand
Last edited by Aijendo on Feb 17, 2022, 2:54:13 PM
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Aijendo wrote:
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Diemian wrote:
Running skelly mages, anything I can improve until I can afford the crazy expensive cluster jewels?

Also running amulet of stars, Is there any changes to what supports we use with the amulet?


A) Put "Death Attunement" on you Amulet = 5 free skill points
Carrion Golem is pretty useless with Skele Mages imho
You need a Cluster with "Blessed Rebirth"


B)

With my Ashes of the Stars Amulet (18% inc. Reservation eff. of Skills)
I now can use

- Determination
- Zealotry (with Generosity)
- Tempest Shield
- Defiance Banner
- Precision Level Lvl 6

And have 75 Mana (Summon Skeletons 36 Mana)



Thanks for the info. Any ideas on a good starter budget large gem?
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Aijendo wrote:
If you look at Top Players on poe.ninja some use AG and Golem and others don't

Ancient Skull has "Minions have 20-40% reduced max. Life"

Not a +2/+3 Minion Skill Lvl

And you have not +2 Minions Skill Level from Necro and not 20% inc. Life
and With the Dagger you have not +1 Minions Skill gems / +1 spell gems from a wand


My point was about inconsistency, not lack of tankiness.

What I described also happened in low tier red maps, with my necro spec and gear, so the supports had +5 levels and more health buffs.

They are doing fine now at t16 and atlas bosses with occultist spec and no extra levels (waiting for empower to kick in lol). Except when they get killed super fast by seemingly random enemies.

That, and the fact that in this build we are dedicating a 6L to the support minions, is what prompted my two questions.
For spiders, I know my setup for the support minions was not the greatest and still has some leveling to go but I solved my T16 super juiced problem for the most part by running awakened melee splash (lvl 1, 8c) rather than multistrike.

The DPS fell off quite a bit for single target (still melts map bosses in less than 10 seconds), but it works a lot better to instantly clear out dozens of small monsters from packs like the Super Harby which were blowing up my support minions. It helps with clear speed as well and I am basically sprinting through T16 maps on a ~5ex budget.
Last edited by Grumpyrock on Feb 17, 2022, 3:37:11 PM

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