(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

Just want to say I'm really enjoying this build. Thanks for the effort you've put into it and the responses you've given throughout the thread, they've helped me in my progression a lot!

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ChemistHCSSF wrote:

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weedGOKU666 wrote:

Yo! I started the league as a TR Raider, but I'm considering options for what my next build will eventually be. This one looks interesting, but I'm pretty lazy - how much effort goes into running this build against maps and bosses? How many different buttons are you pressing (and do they require actual timing)? I don't mind the BF/BB two-button approach, but how often are y'all having to hit Sigil/Vigilant/Cloak/EC? Are there any automation options (even if they make the skill(s) less effective)? tia

you can put cloak on left mouse button, sigil should be used on bosses and ultimatums/and rippy sirus rares. You can drop fortify, the build doesn't need it if you're on SC. Keep in mind doing these things is non-optimal. but the build still does fine without and is still very tanky/does good damage

Thanks for the quick response! That sounds a lot more up my alley. Definitely don't mind losing some tank for QoL since all I play is SC. I guess I could replace Fortify with a typical CWDT Immortal Call to get a little more passive beef.

Don't do that, Immortal Call shares a cooldown with Arcane cloak as both are Guard skills.

Decided to league start with this, has been great so far. Recently got to red maps, and I started getting randomly one shot by ultimatums and sometimes getting my 8k mana get ripped through by some packs and bosses occasionally. What would you recommend doing? I dont have much life on my rares, and was planning to swap to an atziris foible when I get enough currency. Should I drop a sceptre for a shield, maybe save for replica mistwall? If so, which sceptre? Last thing, sorry for lots of questions, also some may be self explanatory but never played a mana based build nor do I have many hours in the game and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

First of all - thank you for the guide!
I leaguestart with it abd right now clear almost all content without any trouble and big investment, buy cloack and foible at First day, linked cloak and drop crown from the 1st sirus and roll trough content very easy, with my curret gear kill UE miltiple time deathless, a9 sirus and else. Still training Maven coz kiling her 1st time and uAtziri possible too with sybile ring or just doging her mirror. So again, thanks for the guide, i really enjoy!

Really strong build, I reached T14 maps with 2 1c scepters and realized the damage is too low and its time for me to get better items. what's the most important stats for sceter? is Atziri's Foible a good choice of amulet?

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ChemistHCSSF wrote:

Shield charge-fortify-faster attacks before vigil, great if you dont have a sceptre
vigilant strike-faster attacks-ancestral call with or without vigil
edit: run vaal grace as well if you have space.
general's cry-desecrate-vigilant strike but you have to have the vigil

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Get fortify, run proper flasks, get endurance charge uptime via enduring cry (feels better with urgent orders linked but not necessary imo) or min endurance charge crafts on rings/ammy and you'll triple your ehp and max hit taken.

i kinda do not see the need of vigil when selfcasting vigilant strike, after the nerfs the jewel does nothing, except gives fortify to party, the timer is the same, 3 skill points could be spent elsewhere

with generals cry, other that using in trigger weapon (not sure if working) it is now very clunky and after the nerf of vigil it has to be cast too often, only advantage is on big boss fights maybe to get fortify without the need of hitting something? that or i do not understand it at all, maybe :o)

is it a good mana flask? gonna buy it following the guide in pob

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kabytos wrote:

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BlessMe1 wrote:

is it a good mana flask? gonna buy it following the guide in pob

Probably best, in map it's - perma curse immune

thank you

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dio8 wrote:

Decided to league start with this, has been great so far. Recently got to red maps, and I started getting randomly one shot by ultimatums and sometimes getting my 8k mana get ripped through by some packs and bosses occasionally. What would you recommend doing? I dont have much life on my rares, and was planning to swap to an atziris foible when I get enough currency. Should I drop a sceptre for a shield, maybe save for replica mistwall? If so, which sceptre? Last thing, sorry for lots of questions, also some may be self explanatory but never played a mana based build nor do I have many hours in the game and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

What's your evasion rating in your hideout? I suspect it's not enough - you are running pure energy shield boots and gloves, and Agnostic sets that to zero. Your mana flask has the right prefix, but the suffix is useless, again, due to Agnostic.

Pulled up your character in Path of Building... I think you went overboard on Mana and missed life. Cloak of Defiance gives you 40% MoM. Ideally, if someone hit you really hard with a single shot, it would eat all your mana and all your life - so you should have an effective life pool of both of them put together, in your case, 2588 life and 8264 mana, total of 10,852. (this isn't technically the ideal case, as you're constantly using your mana to cast spells, so you actually need some extra padding there, but for the sake of this example...)

However, if you took a total of 10k damage, it's split 60:40, so 6k life, and 4k mana. So you're dead, 'cause you only have 2.5k life. With your current setup, you can take a hit of 4,313 damage. At 4,314, you will be dead, and you'll still have over 6k mana left.

Think of it this way - every 6 points of life you gain, actually gives you 10 points of effective life.

So, IMHO, you need boots with a decent life roll, gloves with life, a ring with life, an amulet with better life than that, don't skip Thick Skin, Heart of Oak, and the Evasion / Life nodes at the start on the tree.