Hi, I'm using Vigilant Strike with Faster Attacks and Ancestral Call, and without the jewel I get a 12 second Fortify buff. With The Vigil socketed (right next to Shaper node) the buff remains 12 seconds. Does this mean the jewel is not necessary?
Everything else about the build is amazing and I'm having a blast! Thank you for the guide!
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Posted byMylodiaeson Apr 20, 2021, 9:13:59 PM
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Hey all! How is the map clear on this build? It looks like something id love to play. Is it just clear from BF/BB explosions, no further chaining or anything like that?
How are you all fairing in ultimatums? 2 buttons seems like a recipe to get totally gibbed in t16 ones but im not familiar with the build.
Map clear is excellent. Mobs in maps rarely survive the initial BF cast, and if they do, they certainly don't survive a BB. It's not the fastest - we're not popping mobs offscreen or anything, but it's certainly faster than average.
Full disclosure - only the main skill is 2 button. BF, then BB, repeat. On anything tougher than regular rares, you're triggering Sigil, Arcane cloak, one of the cries, flasks, and the regular cadence of BF/BB. Not the easiest build to play, but it's nowhere near as much of a pain in the **s as the Ingidon archmage blade vortex.
Ultimatums are trivial for me so far, I'm still running absolutely meh level gear and deep into yellow maps now. I am pretty careful with the mods I choose though.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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Posted bygrimjack68on Apr 20, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
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First of all. Massive thanks for this build. Playing it in hardcore and it´s amazing so fast.
There´s just 1 thing I´m not sure about. What Pantheons are optimal with this build?
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Posted bytefached12on Apr 20, 2021, 10:59:57 PM
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Hey all! How is the map clear on this build? It looks like something id love to play. Is it just clear from BF/BB explosions, no further chaining or anything like that?
How are you all fairing in ultimatums? 2 buttons seems like a recipe to get totally gibbed in t16 ones but im not familiar with the build.
Map clear is excellent. Mobs in maps rarely survive the initial BF cast, and if they do, they certainly don't survive a BB. It's not the fastest - we're not popping mobs offscreen or anything, but it's certainly faster than average.
Full disclosure - only the main skill is 2 button. BF, then BB, repeat. On anything tougher than regular rares, you're triggering Sigil, Arcane cloak, one of the cries, flasks, and the regular cadence of BF/BB. Not the easiest build to play, but it's nowhere near as much of a pain in the **s as the Ingidon archmage blade vortex.
Ultimatums are trivial for me so far, I'm still running absolutely meh level gear and deep into yellow maps now. I am pretty careful with the mods I choose though.
Can you explain how mobs are dying to blade fall? First time using this skill, so bear with me. I'm just getting into maps and BF doesn't do much of any damage. I've gotta be mixing something huge.
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Posted byGseybold9on Apr 20, 2021, 11:57:56 PM
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Hey all! How is the map clear on this build? It looks like something id love to play. Is it just clear from BF/BB explosions, no further chaining or anything like that?
How are you all fairing in ultimatums? 2 buttons seems like a recipe to get totally gibbed in t16 ones but im not familiar with the build.
Map clear is excellent. Mobs in maps rarely survive the initial BF cast, and if they do, they certainly don't survive a BB. It's not the fastest - we're not popping mobs offscreen or anything, but it's certainly faster than average.
Full disclosure - only the main skill is 2 button. BF, then BB, repeat. On anything tougher than regular rares, you're triggering Sigil, Arcane cloak, one of the cries, flasks, and the regular cadence of BF/BB. Not the easiest build to play, but it's nowhere near as much of a pain in the **s as the Ingidon archmage blade vortex.
Ultimatums are trivial for me so far, I'm still running absolutely meh level gear and deep into yellow maps now. I am pretty careful with the mods I choose though.
Can you explain how mobs are dying to blade fall? First time using this skill, so bear with me. I'm just getting into maps and BF doesn't do much of any damage. I've gotta be mixing something huge.
at your level arcane cloak won't be adding a ton of damage to your bladefall, as you get higher level/more mana the added lightning is so high you can kill white/blue mobs with bladefall
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Posted byChemistHCSSFon Apr 21, 2021, 12:02:14 AM
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First of all. Massive thanks for this build. Playing it in hardcore and it´s amazing so fast.
There´s just 1 thing I´m not sure about. What Pantheons are optimal with this build?
Lunaris for major
Grukthul or ralakesh for minor, either works
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Posted byChemistHCSSFon Apr 21, 2021, 12:03:49 AM
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First of all. Massive thanks for this build. Playing it in hardcore and it´s amazing so fast.
There´s just 1 thing I´m not sure about. What Pantheons are optimal with this build?
also drop wrath, it's a dps loss unless it's unreserved with essence wurm. Not to mention it makes you a lot less tanky.
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Posted byChemistHCSSFon Apr 21, 2021, 12:07:01 AM
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Yo! I started the league as a TR Raider, but I'm considering options for what my next build will eventually be. This one looks interesting, but I'm pretty lazy - how much effort goes into running this build against maps and bosses? How many different buttons are you pressing (and do they require actual timing)? I don't mind the BF/BB two-button approach, but how often are y'all having to hit Sigil/Vigilant/Cloak/EC? Are there any automation options (even if they make the skill(s) less effective)? tia
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Posted byweedGOKU666on Apr 21, 2021, 1:37:38 AM
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Yo! I started the league as a TR Raider, but I'm considering options for what my next build will eventually be. This one looks interesting, but I'm pretty lazy - how much effort goes into running this build against maps and bosses? How many different buttons are you pressing (and do they require actual timing)? I don't mind the BF/BB two-button approach, but how often are y'all having to hit Sigil/Vigilant/Cloak/EC? Are there any automation options (even if they make the skill(s) less effective)? tia
you can put cloak on left mouse button, sigil should be used on bosses and ultimatums/and rippy sirus rares. You can drop fortify, the build doesn't need it if you're on SC. Keep in mind doing these things is non-optimal. but the build still does fine without and is still very tanky/does good damage
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Posted byChemistHCSSFon Apr 21, 2021, 1:54:44 AM
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Hi, I'm using Vigilant Strike with Faster Attacks and Ancestral Call, and without the jewel I get a 12 second Fortify buff. With The Vigil socketed (right next to Shaper node) the buff remains 12 seconds. Does this mean the jewel is not necessary?
The significance of The Vigil is "With at least 40 Strength in Radius, Vigilant Strike Fortifies you and Nearby Allies for 12 seconds".
This is what allows General's Cry + Vigilant Strike to work - without The Vigil, the mirage warriors from General's Cry only fortify themselves. The Vigil makes them also fortify their nearby allies - i.e. you.
If you're attacking with Vigilant Strike yourself rather than using General's Cry, you don't need The Vigil.
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Posted byst0rmieon Apr 21, 2021, 1:55:40 AM
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