[3.24]The Arachnophobia Allstars|Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 50-250M

Yeah, you're right.

What about the rest?

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happycowboy wrote:

Yeah, you're right.

What about the rest?

You simply did something wrong in your set-up and different as in the build. You did not read the guide too because you mention so many stuff that is clearly written and explained in the guide. You don't post your pob or your char, so I cannot give individualized recommendations to you. And because of your rude insulting style I will never enjoy to do some tipps for you of course.

Your posted misinformations about the attributes and jewels were answered already too.

Please revisit the tipps in the post on the last page 480 for you or again the FAQ, like you prefer.
Or use better clustertransfers, you get around 80 additional attr/str/dex or around 150 additional resis when you don't use the cheap ones that are in the pob used.

I was reading and responding to them at 10:00 in the morning.
Please post here when you're done editing them and the final version can be read

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happycowboy wrote:

I was reading and responding to them at 10:00 in the morning.
Please post here when you're done editing them and the final version can be read

Yes, sure, I am not a native english-speaker, so often I need some moments and corrections more and edit the postings for a better wording or a better advice.

I try to be always polite to beginning poe'er like you and to answer kindly to your aggressive posted misinformations.

Good luck to you and I wish you a short guide like you want! ;-)

Hi, Chromino. I'm now using mageblood settings from PoB with around 77 virulence. But the speed for killing boss isn't that good, the decreasing speed of Boss HP Bar is not that fast as the ones show in videos.Can you help me with that?

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minilion wrote:

Hi, Chromino. I'm now using mageblood settings from PoB with around 77 virulence. But the speed for killing boss isn't that good, the decreasing speed of Boss HP Bar is not that fast as the ones show in videos.Can you help me with that?

In the videos when pinnacle-exarch, eater etc. are down in 4 sec I used around 15-25M damage.

In lategame almost each single step in "The Composition of Damage - Chromino's Fine Arts of Agony and Arachnophobia" is doubling your HoA-damage. The damage is scaling extreme high into 50-60M when you use exactly that set-up.

I take a look at your char soon when I am back at desktop which main-damage-sources you are missing. 77 virulences are not optimal and a bit low. The sin's rebirth flask should be enough for 15 withers because the bosses are fast killed. In longer boss-fights other sources of withers are great.
With mageblood change out the not needed power charges on crit, the power charges are only used with graven's secret-belt. Use another needed skill or faster casting-support instead for more es on hit and faster virulences. Convocation is also not needed against bosses, use another skill.
A b.i.s. 80% manamultiplier-implicit-ebers-helmet is cheap, around 100 chaos, in these days in necropolis.

Your other gear is already almost perfect! Awesome!

When you focus on bossing link your curses to an arcanist brand to prepare and ramp them faster up as in the trigger wand.
Start channeling storm burst before the boss awakes, so you have full virulences already up.
Dps-ing them down in 3-5 sec is reliable zero problem when you reached 20-25M and you can facetank almost all attacks of them with a good rolled watcher's eye es on hit or with melding.

In the invitation-mods "temporal chains" and "enemies have #% chance to avoid poison" you loose much damage because of reduced castspeed and less virulences. Reroll them or optimize your poison/castspeed/virulences-setup.


The ubers are more difficult of course, but eg u-exarch or u-cortex are b.i.s.-geared also very fast down and you can almost kill them insta phase before they activate their second /third phase. Against the ubers I used around 30M (U-shaper) up to 60M with voices (U-sirus).

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Chromino wrote:

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minilion wrote:

Hi, Chromino. I'm now using mageblood settings from PoB with around 77 virulence. But the speed for killing boss isn't that good, the decreasing speed of Boss HP Bar is not that fast as the ones show in videos.Can you help me with that?

In the videos when pinnacle-exarch, eater etc. are down in 4 sec I used around 15-25M damage.

In lategame almost each single step in "The Composition of Damage - Chromino's Fine Arts of Agony and Arachnophobia" is doubling your HoA-damage. The damage is scaling extreme high into 50-60M when you use exactly that set-up.

I take a look at your char soon when I am back at desktop which main-damage-sources you are missing. 77 virulences are not optimal and a bit low. The sin's rebirth flask should be enough for 15 withers because the bosses are fast killed. In longer boss-fights other sources of withers are great.
With mageblood change out the not needed power charges on crit, the power charges are only used with graven's secret-belt. Use another needed skill or faster casting-support instead for more es on hit and faster virulences. Convocation is also not needed against bosses, use another skill.
A b.i.s. 80% manamultiplier-implicit-ebers-helmet is cheap, around 100 chaos, in these days in necropolis.

Your other gear is already almost perfect! Awesome!

When you focus on bossing link your curses to an arcanist brand to prepare and ramp them faster up as in the trigger wand.
Start channeling storm burst before the boss awakes, so you have full virulences already up.
Dps-ing them down in 3-5 sec is reliable zero problem when you reached 20-25M and you can facetank almost all attacks of them with a good rolled watcher's eye es on hit or with melding.

In the invitation-mods "temporal chains" and "enemies have #% chance to avoid poison" you loose much damage because of reduced castspeed and less virulences. Reroll them or optimize your poison/castspeed/virulences-setup.


The ubers are more difficult of course, but eg u-exarch or u-cortex are b.i.s.-geared also very fast down and you can almost kill them insta phase before they activate their second /third phase. Against the ubers I used around 30M (U-shaper) up to 60M with voices (U-sirus).

Thank you! I optimaized my skill tree a litte bit, now I have 82 virulence max.It does better after testing the T16 Minotaur, the HP bar ran faster. I will try using the Voice to maximize the dmg after reaching lvl97-ish.

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minilion wrote:

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Chromino wrote:

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minilion wrote:

Hi, Chromino. I'm now using mageblood settings from PoB with around 77 virulence. But the speed for killing boss isn't that good, the decreasing speed of Boss HP Bar is not that fast as the ones show in videos.Can you help me with that?

In the videos when pinnacle-exarch, eater etc. are down in 4 sec I used around 15-25M damage.

In lategame almost each single step in "The Composition of Damage - Chromino's Fine Arts of Agony and Arachnophobia" is doubling your HoA-damage. The damage is scaling extreme high into 50-60M when you use exactly that set-up.

I take a look at your char soon when I am back at desktop which main-damage-sources you are missing. 77 virulences are not optimal and a bit low. The sin's rebirth flask should be enough for 15 withers because the bosses are fast killed. In longer boss-fights other sources of withers are great.
With mageblood change out the not needed power charges on crit, the power charges are only used with graven's secret-belt. Use another needed skill or faster casting-support instead for more es on hit and faster virulences. Convocation is also not needed against bosses, use another skill.
A b.i.s. 80% manamultiplier-implicit-ebers-helmet is cheap, around 100 chaos, in these days in necropolis.

Your other gear is already almost perfect! Awesome!

When you focus on bossing link your curses to an arcanist brand to prepare and ramp them faster up as in the trigger wand.
Start channeling storm burst before the boss awakes, so you have full virulences already up.
Dps-ing them down in 3-5 sec is reliable zero problem when you reached 20-25M and you can facetank almost all attacks of them with a good rolled watcher's eye es on hit or with melding.

In the invitation-mods "temporal chains" and "enemies have #% chance to avoid poison" you loose much damage because of reduced castspeed and less virulences. Reroll them or optimize your poison/castspeed/virulences-setup.


The ubers are more difficult of course, but eg u-exarch or u-cortex are b.i.s.-geared also very fast down and you can almost kill them insta phase before they activate their second /third phase. Against the ubers I used around 30M (U-shaper) up to 60M with voices (U-sirus).

Thank you! I optimaized my skill tree a litte bit, now I have 82 virulence max.It does better after testing the T16 Minotaur, the HP bar ran faster. I will try using the Voice to maximize the dmg after reaching lvl97-ish.

I took a look in pob.

Booh, that amulet of you is a nice one. And that voices too. The watcher`s eye. And that big wand. Hehehehehehe. Great.

Nice stacked 90k ar!

With more ghastly jewels minion chance to poison on hit (or b.i.s. with mageblood + the adorned + blue magic corrupted ghastly jewels) you can still increase 40% more your damage.

You have overcapped spell suppression.

Best is to use 1 passive the shield-mastery for ailment avoidances, then put out one elegant form cluster and switch in a ghastly jewel. Path 1 passive of inveterate more, then also to the jewel socket next to MoM, that would raise your damage to 56M.
100% all elemental avoidances are still capped and cap suppression with inveterate + 8% mastery while phasing or tattoos, probably you should change out magebane on sol too for divine shield (maps) or lethe shade / iron reflexes (most ubers) etc.

Alternative use also 1x the melding of the flesh, instead rational doctrine, and a bismuth flask (or better survivalist on the tree, resis on the new ghastly jewels, a second sublime form cluster, veteran defender on a large cluster, alira or other sources of resis when you some levels more) for 86%-90% max resis when you like it tanky.

In your b.i.s. set-up also a third curse with whispers of doom or fearsome force would be easy possible for 65M and more.

And you need mandatory to switch power charges to faster casting for generating maximal HoA-virulences against singletargets. Without you will miss much ingame-damage.


pob with lvl 93, 56M damage: https://pobb.in/5w26599U

Awesome gear, congrats!

Edited: I forgot your aspect of the spiders. That is 4-5M more damage. Or with with feeding frenzy 4M more or with bottled faith and another source of withers another 5M are easy added. But you cap already the poe-engine-poison-dot-hardcap, hehehe.

Thank you for your detailed correction! I need more passive skill points to max the resis around 90%. But other than are not difficult, I will tweak those today，

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mrflamee wrote:

Fantastic fantastic build, first time trying necro after sticking to guardian hoag for a long time :)

Thanks for the build!

Thank you a lot again mrflamee!

With more budget and much of your maxing I optimized an updated voices-HoA-necro-set-up.
Stationary with mindfulness for 60-80 mana-reg/ sec.

With the squirel-shield in 'squishy' 200k ehp like other minion builds around 220M can be reached when you focus on damage. Select a second chaosdamage- or chaos-minion skill when you want to oneshot the Ubers.

The megalomaniacs and the skin of the loyals are rare to get. Overall they are very reliable and flexible to be exchanged too in the whole set-up with the +1 chaos-mastery (15M), fearsome force buffing more HoA-crit (15M), with the cult-leaders (13M), with better rolls and corruptions (on the rings, on mageblood) for 1-2 free passivepoints more, 35% increased effect of the small rare cluster-transferpassives, better suffixes on the rare medium clusters, even better megalomaniacs with 3 useable notables, a better rolled the adorned, a second circle of ambition instead the nostalgia, etc...
To clearly stat: in necropolis already all b.i.s. megalomaniacs showed up and I owned them in the last leagues, - and for sure each single one can be replaced flexible for 0, 0.5 or 1 passive.

The budget is still much, much cheaper as all the aurastackers, armourstackers, branders, and captain lancetank + other known high-maxed builds use.
In the minon-meta HoA is probably now outstanding when the crawler is well-tickled-done. Compared to other meta-skills the HoA-autobombing-quality and qol can to be pointed out more in better youtube-videos.

Alternatives:


With the cheap and tanky dark seer, quieter weaker voices or without awakened empower still very nice 160-170M damage are substained. It`s extreme easy also to build in again the es-mastery written in blood when wanted. For some poe-content the tanky choices in the atlas- tree, with enfeeble, more es, the es-mastery, the dark seer, the third clarity-watcher`s eye-mod, introspection, etc. should be choosed in exchange for 10M less damage dealed.

So as result also this updated pob is by far still not totally optimized.
I will add soon the pathfinder, the trickster and the guardian-specialisations.


But right now our dirty herald brings over our messages and lessons of crawling destructions in full convincing:


174M arachnophobiatic damage


113 virulences are used, 180 and more HoA-virulences /sec generated, 20M to inf*** ehp, 88% max-resis (overcapped).



https://pobb.in/3ZbX5FCw

Disc:


When I am informed correct this [3.24] HoA-build deals double the damage and reachs double the ehp as well as doubled substain as the other actual interesting minion-builds (relics, golems, spectres, srs, etc.).

Yes, it is minmaxed, but when I compare it to my former witches, pathfinders, guardians and tricksters which did all ubers, 20000 whisps, most necropolis-mods, t17 etc in low 30-70M and low 400k ehp, this tattoo-using-setup is probably attractive for all demands. Of course iron reflexes for farming u-sirus in 150k armour and more can be still switched in too like in all former leagues.

Of course this allrounder needs to be specialized too when you farm individual uber-high-juided poe-content. Of course we can balance it into tanky tripled max-hits taken or tripling the already inf** ehp in the exchange of 10% less damage dealed.


I guess that probably proofs that HoA is ready for meta again and in the lategame better scaled up as other mortal poison-minions in t17.

Hehehe. Let`s sting!