[3.10] Ewpewww's 'budget' CoC Arc Herald Stacker - >10 mil shaper DPS for as cheap as ~15ex

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Cronggz wrote:

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Ewpew wrote:

Hey! I took a quick look at your passive tree and cluster jewels, suggest the following:
- You need to get the 4% reduced mana reserved passive near Scion wheel
- If you do not have enough skill points, take out one medium cluster jewel to run 8PHs
- You want to run one Heraldry / PH medium cluster jewel

Otherwise, suggest you take out haste to fit in PoF and PoL because those are needed for you to be resist capped. Let me know if you have other questions - I'll try my best to help.

Best,
Ewpew

I did the changes and wow i am able to use PoF, PoL and Vitality now. Thanks a lot man really appreciate the help on here and on the twitch stream for the tips!!

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Karnivool wrote:

Any suggestions on other support gems if i was to swap out arc with spark?

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Cronggz wrote:

Hey, i just came across your herald stacking thread that is under 15ex and i am planning to switch over to your build as i have built up about 20ex with my COC VD Assassin.

Also, i realised that the skill tree u gave is for scion instead of templar or am i just blind

I would like to ask how is the surviability with this build and is there any issues with running a 100% delirious t16 map without dying as well as A8 conquerors ?

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Megavolt419 wrote:

Umm seems I'm low on energy shield i have 4k how can i get 5k+ like you?

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Einstein_Jnr wrote:

Hi, thanks for the great build. I am having some some trouble trying to figure out the coc cap aps numbers. The haste (not vaal haste) is already taking my aps to 11.55 (I want to cap at 10.1) (with 3 frenzy charges, no onslaught, no tailwind). I am a bit confused as to whether the POB aps is correct as it doesn't match with the cyclone attack rate shown in tooltip (I have played coc assassin before and the numbers were similar).

For example, the aps of 11.55 i.e., attack time of 0.0825 shows as 0.13 in tooltip.

Question 1: is the POB fork version showing correct numbers for aps? (I see that the resistances are wrongly shown).

Question 2: please have a look at my tree and if possible give me the basics to calculating the aps? assuming I don trust the POB. I tried doing this myself but my calculations are off by ~40% as compared to POB. I just dont know how haste is giving me 182% attack speed (and this x2 with cyclone).

The damage numbers are mind blowing (I estimate the spell does ~(5-10) times more dps than coc assassin). I am hoping to get this working with proper coc aps.

Thanks in advaance. P.S. I am new to game mechanics.

(my profile is public, also pastin code here: https://pastebin.com/ALMj5K17)

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Ewpew wrote:

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Einstein_Jnr wrote:

Hi, thanks for the great build. I am having some some trouble trying to figure out the coc cap aps numbers. The haste (not vaal haste) is already taking my aps to 11.55 (I want to cap at 10.1) (with 3 frenzy charges, no onslaught, no tailwind). I am a bit confused as to whether the POB aps is correct as it doesn't match with the cyclone attack rate shown in tooltip (I have played coc assassin before and the numbers were similar).

For example, the aps of 11.55 i.e., attack time of 0.0825 shows as 0.13 in tooltip.

Question 1: is the POB fork version showing correct numbers for aps? (I see that the resistances are wrongly shown).

Question 2: please have a look at my tree and if possible give me the basics to calculating the aps? assuming I don trust the POB. I tried doing this myself but my calculations are off by ~40% as compared to POB. I just dont know how haste is giving me 182% attack speed (and this x2 with cyclone).

The damage numbers are mind blowing (I estimate the spell does ~(5-10) times more dps than coc assassin). I am hoping to get this working with proper coc aps.

Thanks in advaance. P.S. I am new to game mechanics.

(my profile is public, also pastin code here: https://pastebin.com/ALMj5K17)

Hey man! First of all, thanks for checking out my build guide!

My response below:
- I noticed that there are some slight discrepancies between in-game stats and POB Fork. Frankly, I don't know what causes the difference but they should not be significant.
- You are right in that we should keep APS<10 if you have 52% cooldown recovery speed - believe you have some experience in CoC so I won't go into breakpoints (thanks for reminding me that I need to update the guide for that)
- I took a quick look at your POB, it seems that you have Vaal Haste enabled vs. Haste :) that might be the issue
- In any case, with level 20 haste + all the other increased aps stuff that you might get (onslaught, frenzy charges), there is still a chance that it could go over the cap. The way I've tested for this is to run a map and monitor my max APS numbers. If you need to reduce APS, then my suggestion is to use a lower level haste or play around with your reduced mana reserved jewels (are there any with increased attack speed?)

I hope this helps!

Cheers,
Ewpew

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Ewpew wrote:

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Ewpew wrote:

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Einstein_Jnr wrote:

Hi, thanks for the great build. I am having some some trouble trying to figure out the coc cap aps numbers. The haste (not vaal haste) is already taking my aps to 11.55 (I want to cap at 10.1) (with 3 frenzy charges, no onslaught, no tailwind). I am a bit confused as to whether the POB aps is correct as it doesn't match with the cyclone attack rate shown in tooltip (I have played coc assassin before and the numbers were similar).

For example, the aps of 11.55 i.e., attack time of 0.0825 shows as 0.13 in tooltip.

Question 1: is the POB fork version showing correct numbers for aps? (I see that the resistances are wrongly shown).

Question 2: please have a look at my tree and if possible give me the basics to calculating the aps? assuming I don trust the POB. I tried doing this myself but my calculations are off by ~40% as compared to POB. I just dont know how haste is giving me 182% attack speed (and this x2 with cyclone).

The damage numbers are mind blowing (I estimate the spell does ~(5-10) times more dps than coc assassin). I am hoping to get this working with proper coc aps.

Thanks in advaance. P.S. I am new to game mechanics.

(my profile is public, also pastin code here: https://pastebin.com/ALMj5K17)

Hey man! First of all, thanks for checking out my build guide!

My response below:
- I noticed that there are some slight discrepancies between in-game stats and POB Fork. Frankly, I don't know what causes the difference but they should not be significant.
- You are right in that we should keep APS<10 if you have 52% cooldown recovery speed - believe you have some experience in CoC so I won't go into breakpoints (thanks for reminding me that I need to update the guide for that)
- I took a quick look at your POB, it seems that you have Vaal Haste enabled vs. Haste :) that might be the issue
- In any case, with level 20 haste + all the other increased aps stuff that you might get (onslaught, frenzy charges), there is still a chance that it could go over the cap. The way I've tested for this is to run a map and monitor my max APS numbers. If you need to reduce APS, then my suggestion is to use a lower level haste or play around with your reduced mana reserved jewels (are there any with increased attack speed?)

I hope this helps!

Cheers,
Ewpew

Of course - let me know if you have any other questions!