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GrunkleBob wrote:
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Hey all, so old Dwaine the necro kept dying and I said "well you could use shield charge with added lightning and support it with fortify..." yeah, he doesn't die anymore either!
This league is rough, you gotta be moving, they ARE out to get you!
Approaching 300 splinters and may hit 92 BEFORE I try the simulacrum!
Good to see issues are getting sorted out. Life/Resists is hard, but resists give you more life than life gives resists so it's best to cap resists first.
Then play around in easy to mod tier 1-5 maps and good things will come.
DO YOUR MASTER MISSIONS!
Zana, look for the "Complete the lab trial", get that final ascendancy!
If you have too (I DID) ask on trade chat for lab trials, took me 30 min and the guy didn't even want a tip :)
Don't forget Zana is the only path to certain maps, and it's a free double map just for clicking her mission! Buy zana maps, always check her, they refresh after you run her mission. If you don't know who zana is, she comes after Kirac, I think you need to get to T3 maps, so buy maps from Kirac for a bit and you'll run into her eventually.
ALWAYS head to the delve at about 85% of level.
NIKO loves to level characters! ALWAYS path to Azurite, there will come a time when it isn't needed, but always start with that. Secret rooms suck before level 80, don't worry about them unless they are obvious.
Do all of your Jun missions on T1 maps, the level does not determine the unlocks! Spoiler: It's EZ on T1!
Beasts are easy with a bunch of minions, nuf said.
An Alva trick, run a super amped (as high tier map) as you can run first.
TRY to kill the boss you want without dying. Don't worry about the door, bonus if you can get one!
Then you are free to complete the temple at lower tiered maps because the temple will open at the highest level you completed.
Trade is a mess right now, but keep checking, there are people like me who WILL leave a map for 2 chaos :)
Just give us a minute or 2 because we are probably delirious!
Good luck!


Lots of things I didn't know in there, including Zana being T3 and above.
Is it ok to do Jun missions on WHITE T1 maps if necessary? The secret lab thing seems hard with my current setup even in a magic T1 map so I'm wondering if making the map magic can be skipped (I only did that to get the boss for Atlas purposes).

Also some good delve info in your post, there's lots I can't find about delve via Google such as how do fragile delve-only builds get enough sulphite if they are poor at mapping?
Is this build any good for a decent depth in delve? If so, how do WE sustain sulphite for delving?

One last question - if I'm going to craft a weapon/shield from a white item, which base item type / implicit mod is best? I have wands (spell dmg %) and also dagger/swords that have 400 accuracy rating or global crit. I read that minions can benefit a lot from accuracy rating but I think the mods on gear don't apply to minions (only "minions have" or "allies have" mods will apply to minions)?

So until I get a convoking wand, is it best to craft from spell dmg% weapons so that auras etc can benefit?
On shield, the movement speed one seems good? Or is there a speed penalty for using heavier armours?

Gonna try your shield charge trick when I get some gear sorted out.

Currently both my weapona and shield are white, so I was going to do what Elocara said in earlier post and use essences on them to get some stats/resists. I should be able to get positive on all but chaos - finally!
Last edited by SpontaneousCombustion on Apr 2, 2020, 12:13:23 PM
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Elocara wrote:
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I'm already using NeverSink's filter and it seems pretty good, I never tried customising it though (I'd need to be aware of a reason to change it and I've not found one as yet). I think there's a loot filter included in the guide but I'm not clear on any differences from NeverSink's so I've not tried it yet - if it ain't broke etc.

@SpontaneousCombustion Of course, Wrecker has his own filter! I didn't mean to dismiss that at all, I meant to try it at some point but forgot. Shame on me.

I just found a really good basic crafting guide video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZkvhTZGZ-Y

:) Don't feel like you have to use my filters at all. Lots of people use them, some like them ;), but I made them for me and made them public (just like my guides). My filters ONLY gear. So you won't every hide Div Cards, low level maps, or anything. I like to pick up everything (but gear), even when I'm flying through T16s. And now you know.
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast

Annnnnd

Wrecker of Days' One-Stop-Shop: Stress-Free Builds (& Filters): 1-Button, HC SSF, Item Freedom: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3467875
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There are some seriously helpful people in this thread - Wrecker of course, Elocara, M_atrix and GrunkleBob spring tgo mind and pologies if I missed anyone out.

I've read GrunkleBob's latest post a couple of times - so much to digest - it's a mine of great info for noobs like me and I'm certain that I have questions...

Thanks for the crafting link Elocara, I'll have a look tomorrow..

For now, sleep! Thanks guys, great job on making this thread/build enjoyable.
Thanks SpontaneousCombustion!

I've been quite fortunate to have very helpful people in these threads over the years. They are all amazing. PoE is HUGE. So please, don't feel like you ask too many questions. Ask as much as you can and we'll all do our best to help each other (as you stated).

Great job being patient with the game!
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast

Annnnnd

Wrecker of Days' One-Stop-Shop: Stress-Free Builds (& Filters): 1-Button, HC SSF, Item Freedom: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3467875
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Lots of things I didn't know in there, including Zana being T3 and above.
Is it ok to do Jun missions on WHITE T1 maps if necessary? The secret lab thing seems hard with my current setup even in a magic T1 map so I'm wondering if making the map magic can be skipped (I only did that to get the boss for Atlas purposes).

Also some good delve info in your post, there's lots I can't find about delve via Google such as how do fragile delve-only builds get enough sulphite if they are poor at mapping?
Is this build any good for a decent depth in delve? If so, how do WE sustain sulphite for delving?

One last question - if I'm going to craft a weapon/shield from a white item, which base item type / implicit mod is best? I have wands (spell dmg %) and also dagger/swords that have 400 accuracy rating or global crit. I read that minions can benefit a lot from accuracy rating but I think the mods on gear don't apply to minions (only "minions have" or "allies have" mods will apply to minions)?

So until I get a convoking wand, is it best to craft from spell dmg% weapons so that auras etc can benefit?
On shield, the movement speed one seems good? Or is there a speed penalty for using heavier armours?

Gonna try your shield charge trick when I get some gear sorted out.

Currently both my weapona and shield are white, so I was going to do what Elocara said in earlier post and use essences on them to get some stats/resists. I should be able to get positive on all but chaos - finally!
:) I'll only answer a couple of these as some of these were more Grunkle specific.

Unless you've modified the posted build, spell damage won't improve this build at all. Spell damage doesn't improve auras or minions (unless the minions cast spells). SO in regards to crafting, don't put too much effort into crafting until your items are item level 84. Definitely tweak some gear if you need it, but don't go spending tons of currency until the item base is a high enough level that it can get the highest T1s available in the game.

So with the exception of the COnvoking wand you mentioned, there's not really any other weapon that comes to mind. You can use any item base. But I'd spend your currency on a Convoking Want. It's really the same as the other gear too. It's only the implicit that matters. We don't really care about Armour, ES, or Evasion. So again, only item level matters when pouring currency into crafting. There aren't any "ally" specific gear in the game. My favourite shield is the Archon Kite Shield for the resist implicit. In the new filter, I'm making I'll have the "Two-Toned Boots" "Convoking Wand" "Bone Helmet" "Vermillion Ring" stared for this build.
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast

Annnnnd

Wrecker of Days' One-Stop-Shop: Stress-Free Builds (& Filters): 1-Button, HC SSF, Item Freedom: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3467875
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GrunkleBob wrote:
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Hey all, so old Dwaine the necro kept dying and I said "well you could use shield charge with added lightning and support it with fortify..." yeah, he doesn't die anymore either!
This league is rough, you gotta be moving, they ARE out to get you!
Approaching 300 splinters and may hit 92 BEFORE I try the simulacrum!
Good to see issues are getting sorted out. Life/Resists is hard, but resists give you more life than life gives resists so it's best to cap resists first.
Then play around in easy to mod tier 1-5 maps and good things will come.
DO YOUR MASTER MISSIONS!
Zana, look for the "Complete the lab trial", get that final ascendancy!
If you have too (I DID) ask on trade chat for lab trials, took me 30 min and the guy didn't even want a tip :)
Don't forget Zana is the only path to certain maps, and it's a free double map just for clicking her mission! Buy zana maps, always check her, they refresh after you run her mission. If you don't know who zana is, she comes after Kirac, I think you need to get to T3 maps, so buy maps from Kirac for a bit and you'll run into her eventually.
ALWAYS head to the delve at about 85% of level.
NIKO loves to level characters! ALWAYS path to Azurite, there will come a time when it isn't needed, but always start with that. Secret rooms suck before level 80, don't worry about them unless they are obvious.
Do all of your Jun missions on T1 maps, the level does not determine the unlocks! Spoiler: It's EZ on T1!
Beasts are easy with a bunch of minions, nuf said.
An Alva trick, run a super amped (as high tier map) as you can run first.
TRY to kill the boss you want without dying. Don't worry about the door, bonus if you can get one!
Then you are free to complete the temple at lower tiered maps because the temple will open at the highest level you completed.
Trade is a mess right now, but keep checking, there are people like me who WILL leave a map for 2 chaos :)
Just give us a minute or 2 because we are probably delirious!
Good luck!


Lots of things I didn't know in there, including Zana being T3 and above.
Is it ok to do Jun missions on WHITE T1 maps if necessary? The secret lab thing seems hard with my current setup even in a magic T1 map so I'm wondering if making the map magic can be skipped (I only did that to get the boss for Atlas purposes).

Also some good delve info in your post, there's lots I can't find about delve via Google such as how do fragile delve-only builds get enough sulphite if they are poor at mapping?
Is this build any good for a decent depth in delve? If so, how do WE sustain sulphite for delving?

One last question - if I'm going to craft a weapon/shield from a white item, which base item type / implicit mod is best? I have wands (spell dmg %) and also dagger/swords that have 400 accuracy rating or global crit. I read that minions can benefit a lot from accuracy rating but I think the mods on gear don't apply to minions (only "minions have" or "allies have" mods will apply to minions)?

So until I get a convoking wand, is it best to craft from spell dmg% weapons so that auras etc can benefit?
On shield, the movement speed one seems good? Or is there a speed penalty for using heavier armours?

Gonna try your shield charge trick when I get some gear sorted out.

Currently both my weapona and shield are white, so I was going to do what Elocara said in earlier post and use essences on them to get some stats/resists. I should be able to get positive on all but chaos - finally!
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A lot of your questions spell out your lack of knowledge:) And that is OK :)
NOTHING you equip should be white, that is why you get Essence/Alchemy/Chance and worst case transmutation orbs. Read them and use them!
Let me start by saying I am no crafter, so I can't help you there.
If an essence, alchemy, chance or a chaos reroll doesn't help, I'm buying it off trade.
If you are this new, I would follow Wrecker's guide to a T.
The first time I ran it his way, I hit 92 and considered it a real success.
I've done it 3 or 4 times now and this is why I play around with it, I have learned a lot about game mechanics and I know what risks will gain rewards.
Dwaine is doing what he is doing because he ONLY plays multi with me.
The difficulty increase in multi player is substantial, and the rewards really are not, but it sure is fun!
You can delve with a BROKEN build, just stay in the light exile!
When THIS build is maxed and kicking ass, 180 delve is EZ! Yes she is a delver.
Start in the beginning, only run low level azurite until you get darkness resist, light radius and flare light radius up. Then you can venture into the dark a bit, or at least not die if you get behind the cart (don't panic, it stops 1 screen away so you can catch it again!).
It is fine to do Jun as unmodded white maps, HOWEVER KNOW THIS, most of syndicates gimmick is HEAVY phys with elemental. Best to block Jun while you try to get stronger, run other masters on maps always, she CAN'T show up then.
Resists to 75, chaos above zero, amethyst flask with shock removal (not mandatory, but get it as soon as you can), life/es to 3500 at least and you should be able to pound out T1 Jun all day. And up to tier5 with 2 blue mods easy with this build. The only time Jun level matters is pushing safehouses and Mastermind, and you won't have to worry about either for a loooong time, so don't worry about it. Get a Vaal summon skeletons and drop it often, it charges pretty fast. Dwaine drops one at the start of delve boss encounter, and another towards the end, not much survives that army!
Make your characters public and we can provide more help.
There is a virus that has us all on lock down so there is lots of time to help others!
Click your "Logged in as name" in the top left of the forum screen. Mid right of next screen click privacy settings, un check "hide characters"
You are only really looking for a convoking wand, that is the only weapon that crafts multiple minion mods. You will get plenty of accuracy from the tree. Remember, accuracy does nothing, only Minion accuracy will help you.
Good luck, if you made it to maps, the game has obviously taken hold.
Don't be afraid to keep asking questions!

And, IF maps are too hard because your resistances are broken, you can run the highest act 10 area you can handle and pray for drops, or at least currency to buy some decent gear.
You can run them forever by control+clicking the portal and selecting New Instance.

Good Luck!

AND don't be afraid of the trade site! One piece of gear can give you 70 health and cap your resists and get you mapping, all for 1-5 chaos orbs, check it out! Corrupted 6 links are 10-20 chaos (make sure the colors match your gems) and I have a Tabula in my stash you can HAVE if you want!

EDIT: sold my Tabula finally, sorry!
Once you do atlas bonus completion on a map, you can run them unmodded.
But why would you?
A few reasons, your character is squishy and you are swimming in white maps, yes, just run them.
You are 5% from a level and don't want to die, yes run unmodded maps, or better yet, hit the delve.
You should always use Transmutations,Augmentations and Alterations as needed to get simple, but quantity adding mods. At least 2 blue mods on a map is minimum, if you have chisels, make them 5% or 10% quality for an extra boost. Let's remember we are squishy and we are on a low level loot hunt and we need to maximize that hunt if we are ever going to get to fully juiced T16 double beyond insanity!
I will wear your ghost and you will die twice, against me and for me.
That is some cold blooded shit to say...
Last edited by GrunkleBob on Apr 3, 2020, 11:15:13 AM
Can anyone tell me why I can have three specters when my skill gem says 2 and I don't have any +1 specter mod or anything like that?

And should I pick up a slave driver as the third specter or another host/carnage ape?
A little ride on the t16 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNyqRxdCRqE
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Elocara wrote:
Can anyone tell me why I can have three specters when my skill gem says 2 and I don't have any +1 specter mod or anything like that?

And should I pick up a slave driver as the third specter or another host/carnage ape?


You get 2 at gem level 13 and read death attunement on your tree :)
Slave driver or Frost Sentinel from lunaris, the big guys that shoot the missles, not the three at a time missles, the barrage ones. They are great snipers and have 115K health!
I will wear your ghost and you will die twice, against me and for me.
That is some cold blooded shit to say...
Last edited by GrunkleBob on Apr 3, 2020, 3:03:22 PM
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ali_veli wrote:
A little ride on the t16 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNyqRxdCRqE


I came for the show, I was NOT disappointed!
I was going to say gratz on dropping 2 Vall skellies on the boss, but then you dropped 3!
Well done for level 89!
And GREAT flask management!
Don't forget to anoint your amulet with gravepact or redemption :)
I will wear your ghost and you will die twice, against me and for me.
That is some cold blooded shit to say...
Last edited by GrunkleBob on Apr 3, 2020, 3:13:39 PM
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GrunkleBob wrote:
You get 2 at gem level 13 and read death attunement on your tree :)

Facepalms... thanks for helping out the blind! XD


Edit: But... some very smart people (read: twitch chat) told me that everyone used slave drivers! Does everyone know better or are they just missing out on the charges? Are they equal in damage output and up to taste? I really don't understand the math, especially since we can't even see the dps of our undead friends.
Last edited by Elocara on Apr 3, 2020, 5:46:35 PM

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