[3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone

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llMrSinisterll wrote:

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nokken1 wrote:

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llMrSinisterll wrote:

Hi thanks for the build it grea!
I can easily do t16 maps.
But i often killed in 81 82 83 heists, what can i do to be more tanky? expect from raising my energy(i have 6800 with discipline)

I have 7400 ES but still have issues in high level heists also. I have zero issues in any other area except of course 100% delirium . I started using flesh and stone (sand stance) instead of zealotry. I dont have an issues with damage, so just get a little more defense for heists. I have tried decoy totem and it doesnt work that great for me. You could also try smoke mine or a smoke cloud flask instead of a quicksilver?

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TieJäi wrote:

Where does your damage intake come from in a heist? Use your flame dash and flasks to around, nothing should ever be hitting you. Mobs in heist do so much damage that it doesnt really make a difference if you hav 7 or 9k ES. You should just not get hit much. The Blasphemy Temp Chains do a lot for that. Just pop flasks, phase through them, drop Vortex on the way, get new flask charges.

I mainly die after the alarm is raised when there is cluster of monsters behind door.
Thanks for the tips! :)
I will try to add smoke mine + replace frost bite with + Temp Chains.

I thought you were LL from the auras you mentioned, and LL should have both curses. Frostbite gives a ton of damage. But if you are CI or only have one curse for other reasons, temp chains gives a lot more survivability, except for maps where action speed cant be modified.

As for doors, the faster you are, the easier it becomes. If the door opens and you still stand a few yards away, its gonna be harder than if you you run against the door waiting for it to let you through. All the mobs camping behind doors have a delay, back ranks even more than the frontal enemies, so you can usually see them shoot their beams behind you into the door, while you are already behind them.

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Make_A_Witch_Foundation wrote:

Is Aspect of the Spider better than Zealotry? Loving the build so far and my gear is getting pretty good. I don't know if I want to swap to Aspect of the Spider though.. suggestions?

You can't simply swap zealotry out for spider - zealotry is paid for with your HP as it is in the shield. Spider has to be paid for with mana reservation, so you would have to give up one of the mana reservations to use spider.

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Shaddolf wrote:

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Make_A_Witch_Foundation wrote:

Is Aspect of the Spider better than Zealotry? Loving the build so far and my gear is getting pretty good. I don't know if I want to swap to Aspect of the Spider though.. suggestions?

You can't simply swap zealotry out for spider - zealotry is paid for with your HP as it is in the shield. Spider has to be paid for with mana reservation, so you would have to give up one of the mana reservations to use spider.

Yes, I know I'd have to swap stuff around and make changes.. I'm just asking if it's worth it.

9500 es, still dying too much to heists and some map mods.
So far dps in pob (no boss) is about 700k. It seems slow to kill heist monsters, too slow.
Not that happy with the build, though it's fun to play. I can't imagine doing Sirius with this - Died 3 times to 80 catarina

My character is the CI version with 10k es and 1.4m dot Sirus dps

I think I’ve only ever died in heists once or twice, a big hit or big gank might take me down to 3/4 usually in there

I guess you don’t pass the gear check?

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nokken1 wrote:

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llMrSinisterll wrote:

Hi thanks for the build it grea!
I can easily do t16 maps.
But i often killed in 81 82 83 heists, what can i do to be more tanky? expect from raising my energy(i have 6800 with discipline)

I have 7400 ES but still have issues in high level heists also. I have zero issues in any other area except of course 100% delirium . I started using flesh and stone (sand stance) instead of zealotry. I dont have an issues with damage, so just get a little more defense for heists. I have tried decoy totem and it doesnt work that great for me. You could also try smoke mine or a smoke cloud flask instead of a quicksilver?

I run CI and have discipline so end up in 10k+ es and I have died in heists too, but it’s very rare maybe once or twice due to complacency as I feel like I can’t die in there

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Prostitute4Money wrote:

9500 es, still dying too much to heists and some map mods.
So far dps in pob (no boss) is about 700k. It seems slow to kill heist monsters, too slow.
Not that happy with the build, though it's fun to play. I can't imagine doing Sirius with this - Died 3 times to 80 catarina

My character is the CI version with 10k es and 1.4m dot Sirus dps

I think I’ve only ever died in heists once or twice, a big hit or big gank might take me down to 3/4 usually in there

I guess you don’t pass the gear check?

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TieJäi wrote:

Where does your damage intake come from in a heist? Use your flame dash and flasks to around, nothing should ever be hitting you. Mobs in heist do so much damage that it doesnt really make a difference if you hav 7 or 9k ES. You should just not get hit much. The Blasphemy Temp Chains do a lot for that. Just pop flasks, phase through them, drop Vortex on the way, get new flask charges.

I got 10k es and I’ve only ever died once or twice in there so more ES definitely helps. I can play pretty aggressive and greedy too in there killing all big packs by running or blinking into the middle of them.

I am running CI with discipline so my dps is half of LL but everything dies in 1 shot anyway so dps wise it’s overkill to run LL. The only benefit of LL is probably bossing outside of hiest

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Armisal wrote:

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Prostitute4Money wrote:

9500 es, still dying too much to heists and some map mods.
So far dps in pob (no boss) is about 700k. It seems slow to kill heist monsters, too slow.
Not that happy with the build, though it's fun to play. I can't imagine doing Sirius with this - Died 3 times to 80 catarina

My character is the CI version with 10k es and 1.4m dot Sirus dps

I think I’ve only ever died in heists once or twice, a big hit or big gank might take me down to 3/4 usually in there

I guess you don’t pass the gear check?

I spent total 100c on gear, extremely bad luck with drops so far. You think the way to go is "best defense = offense"?

Sadly can't look at your gear. Maybe you could share pob link?

Is Temp Chains really necessary with this build? I've been using Aspect of the Spider instead. Just wonder if i'm missing out on anything.