3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

Well I played a different minion build last league so I am excited to try this one this league. XP

Is the -1 max zombies gonna be a problem next league to the gem nerf?

Mates, could you please give me honest opinion

Have never played summoner and have not played Poe since half a year


Is this good starter / end game build for the next patch ?

This build got gutted but I'm sure it's still viable. It's just that other builds might be more viable from both offensive and defensive stand point now at similar costs.

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iDT wrote:

Mates, could you please give me honest opinion

Have never played summoner and have not played Poe since half a year


Is this good starter / end game build for the next patch ?

I main'd this build for 36 challenges in metamoprh and adapted it to a fully 1 handed version for old guys like me, no-one can say how it will be for certain in 3.10 but it should still be pretty dang strong.

Now that being said, what I CAN say 100% for sure is there is a nearly identical summoner build using golems instead and it absolutely works and was not nerfed in any way.

I have been trying it the last few days in between leagues and was shocked at how cheap and easy it was to play. So basically my point is there are still easy afk style build options, this build should still be fine but if isnt to your liking with the loss of the automated cyclone setup try the golems (Bamper1's Stone Golems).

I will do both this league, the necromancer is so OP you typically are done with everything 4 weeks in anyways and hella bored.

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brunowa wrote:

Here is a simulation of a WORST CASE SCENARIO in 3.10.

https://youtu.be/lzoZJ87BR9A

Taking into account all majorr nerfs we received:

11 zombies only (due to Baron and gem nerf... we should get 1+ more, but I went conservative).
No Shaper's Touch
No Spirit Offering
No Bone Barrier
No Animated Guardian
No Feeding Frenzy in 6L (Minion Speed instead)

This is basically a worst case scenario.

It can only be improved from this.

Feels weird not cycloning but my brain just needs to adapt.

Its not the worst case. Also sceptres and zombies base damage reduce 40%.

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iDT wrote:

Mates, could you please give me honest opinion

Have never played summoner and have not played Poe since half a year


Is this good starter / end game build for the next patch ?

if you ask me in this league stay away from zombies skelly or sceptres all nerfed really realy bad. If you want to be summoner go for golem. fire or ice if I were you. Also stay away from mana guardian builds.

The mana guardians were more to blame then the necros for all the nerfs anyways, I know people in this thread thought they were the ones abusing the OP'ness but if you looked at the ladders throughout the league everyone in places 1-10 was a Templar Mana Guardian running nearly the exact same build as us, but just doing it like Crazypearce in CI with 3k STR and 25k ES.

Dont go ice or flame golems though, the stone version is amazing and their aoe is nuts, and it taunts so its crazy safe to play. Ive already deleted all the guardians and conquerors (a8) in a clayshaper and victarios shield, its nuts.

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tkots8080 wrote:

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brunowa wrote:

Here is a simulation of a WORST CASE SCENARIO in 3.10.

https://youtu.be/lzoZJ87BR9A

Taking into account all majorr nerfs we received:

11 zombies only (due to Baron and gem nerf... we should get 1+ more, but I went conservative).
No Shaper's Touch
No Spirit Offering
No Bone Barrier
No Animated Guardian
No Feeding Frenzy in 6L (Minion Speed instead)

This is basically a worst case scenario.

It can only be improved from this.

Feels weird not cycloning but my brain just needs to adapt.

Its not the worst case. Also sceptres and zombies base damage reduce 40%.

Only skeletons lost 40% damage. Zombies and specters did not get base damage decreases lmao.

Zombies lost 1 zombie baseline and around 3 total for this style build (1k-1200 base str). It went from 14 to 11. Thats a 21% damage loss.

Specters also only lost 2 monster levels. Gem level 21 = 78, 22 = 80 and then 1 level per after that. So getting to 84 is still going to be a joke if that is the build you want to play. They lost around 12% damage.

This also doesn't consider any changes regarding new notables... like getting the ability to get 40% impale chance which gives 100% impale. Or allowing your minions to gain crit scaling. Even post nerf skeletons can get upwards of 800k each with mediocre gear.

Will it be a joke to gear to get to the point where you kill conqs in 1 second? Absolutely not. Is it still possible? Yes, very much so.

From Standard perspective, what you guys think about this build in 3.10?