[3.9] Physical Conversion Bowyer | Wander [TS/LA/IS + Barrage] [KB + Power Siphon] [All Content]

My current gear
Spoiler


Also i've got some base to work with:


Multimode -> attack speed -> crit/qual -> ele pen?
Last edited by streej on Dec 26, 2019, 2:55:24 AM
Hi, glad you're enjoying the build.

It's nice you have a double watcher's. It's a good one but if you use Hatred Conversion eye, you must drop the Hrimsorrow's or else it gives almost no DPS. I suggest getting a pair of the new glove base (forget name, check on poedb) that can roll intimidate on hit. Craft a pair of gloves that has intimidate on hit, high life, and some other mods like resists/damage. Whatever you do you MUST craft 25% phys to cold conversion mod (1 divine); you can multimod too and craft an extra damage mod (%damage while leeching). This will be a huge boost to life + DPS compared to your Hrimsorrows. If you stack a lot more resists on your gloves you can also potentially free up your ring implicit as well for more damage (steel ring/opal ring base), or you can get a pair of Tailwind on crit boots (you must craft this; preferably two-tone base).

Overall for the most min-maxed I suggest this:

Gloves with high life, conversion mod, intimidate on hit, some resists and/or damage (%damage while leeching mastercraft is OP)

Boots with high life, ms, resists, and tailwind on crit.

Ring with some more damage. Your Shaper ring has basically no DPS (flat fire does almost nothing and crit chance is a weak mod)

Those items are very expensive atm so you're better off alt-regaling + finish w/ multimod or essence crafting.

In the future when loreweave prices drop consider getting one with %damage corruption

Good luck if you have further questions lmk.

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Hi thank you for the quick aanswer:)

Crafted gloves like this now i multimod it i know life abit low but what are the chances to get the stats idk :/ took me now 2hours
Last edited by FatalD4mage on Dec 26, 2019, 4:29:19 AM
just made this gloves now..
Last edited by FatalD4mage on Dec 26, 2019, 5:14:17 AM
Heads up again, not only is Poet's gaining popularity Mathil is making a Powersiphon / Barrage Wander. incoming price rise...

Final build update for now!
So after the swap to bow we spent probably an additional 5ex taking investment so far to around 18ex. (Not counting self linked Arborix).

Build currently looks as follows:


Don't copy my gear, follow the guide. I could easily have not overpaid for the boots but I like being rez capped without it. Watcher's Eye up next (I swear I've been saying that for about 4 posts) but Dying Sun was such a huge boost. Absolutely melting content and it feels safe currently.
Purchases up next: Watcher's Eye, possibly triple T1 res helm and swap into influenced stygian. Going to try and craft T1-T2 triple res boots with gain as phys.
Crafting Consortium - The Igloo Mirror Shop
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3283615
Last edited by GrandpaPenguin on Dec 26, 2019, 6:11:40 AM
Do you think your setup of wander is better than eternity shroud phys wander? with double call of the brotherhood?

https://poe.ninja/blight/builds?class=Deadeye&item=The-Eternity-Shroud&skill=Kinetic-Blast&sort=dps

Currently playing shroud of the lightless and im not sure if I want to play ur setup or eternity shroud.
Last edited by LessFluff on Dec 26, 2019, 2:36:35 PM
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FatalD4mage wrote:


Hi thank you for the quick aanswer:)

Crafted gloves like this now i multimod it i know life abit low but what are the chances to get the stats idk :/ took me now 2hours


I think those gloves are good; the 40% fire res will help you optimize further. For example you have 40% extra res so you can replace the suffix on boots w/ hybrid cold + light and this might allow you to mastercraft a suffix (at least +1 endurance) - not too sure though b/c don't have your POB open, but anytime you get more res see if you can do something to free up suffix slots.



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Escalune wrote:
I've really enjoyed playing both the wand and bow variants of this build, but I decided to play Cyclone this patch in Standard. However, I was curious if you had found any clever uses for the Awakener jewel.



P.S. I think the game is trying to tell me to come back to this build because I found the below on my first few kills. Are there Standard options for the Awakener orb I should consider or am I better off just selling it to one of the big crafters?





Not so far, at least not one that would make the build objectively better. The %res cost as well as a lost jewel socket + passive points makes the opportunity cost too high imo. I was playing around with it til I ran out of divines so maybe later on I'll check it out again, nothing looked too promising tho.

And very nice stuff :) I think better off selling for now esp while the prices are still high. It's not really worth using atm (at least after they nerfed or patched the one exploit a few days ago).



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streej wrote:
My current gear
Spoiler


Also i've got some base to work with:


Multimode -> attack speed -> crit/qual -> ele pen?



Holy shit that's a nice wand base; yes attack speed + crit/qual are better than the nerfed ele pen. Multimod only adds 2 extra mods which is dumb, so you'll prob have to yolo exalt it for the 6th mod. Make sure to keep a curse + wave of conviction setup (lvl 1 cwdt - lvl 5 proj weakness - lvl 7 wave) otherwise a corrupted Poet's might still be better for single target.

Honestly though, have you considered playing the bow build instead? You seem to have some very nice optimized crafts and playing the bow build will give you like 2-3x higher DPS ceiling and faceroll everything.
Last edited by Enahkra on Dec 26, 2019, 6:19:14 PM
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Do you think your setup of wander is better than eternity shroud phys wander? with double call of the brotherhood?

https://poe.ninja/blight/builds?class=Deadeye&item=The-Eternity-Shroud&skill=Kinetic-Blast&sort=dps

Currently playing shroud of the lightless and im not sure if I want to play ur setup or eternity shroud.


Those guys are running extremely min-maxed setups; if you sank that much currency in this build you'd have way more DPS + tankiness. Also they're all <4.5k life builds and running as Deadeye, so not only is their POB dps exaggerated, but they can't do bosses. That build is good for running low tier content all day. This build at 5-5.5k life, some layers of phys mitigation + Loreweave max res is already somewhat rippy, but running with none of those + 1k less life + no fortify from shield charge will feel terrible for red maps.
I've looked at that conversion concept; it's interesting but idk why people even bother running them unless its for the memes. The DPS isn't impressive given how much currency you have to spend and there's no defenses.



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Heads up again, not only is Poet's gaining popularity Mathil is making a Powersiphon / Barrage Wander. incoming price rise...

Final build update for now!
So after the swap to bow we spent probably an additional 5ex taking investment so far to around 18ex. (Not counting self linked Arborix).

Build currently looks as follows:


Don't copy my gear, follow the guide. I could easily have not overpaid for the boots but I like being rez capped without it. Watcher's Eye up next (I swear I've been saying that for about 4 posts) but Dying Sun was such a huge boost. Absolutely melting content and it feels safe currently.
Purchases up next: Watcher's Eye, possibly triple T1 res helm and swap into influenced stygian. Going to try and craft T1-T2 triple res boots with gain as phys.


Oh boy, time to remove all references to "league starter" from my guide. Hopefully Mathil goes the typical piscator's route so Poet's doesn't inflate even further (then again nobody ever bothered playing wander w/ Poet's til I wrote this guide so maybe they won't notice it's decent). Also, very nice stuff. Keep me updated on how T15+ metamorphs go, and how often you brick content. I really need that sort of feedback to understand the current limits of this build (that way I can let ppl know on the guide).

Also you're gonna get 30q beastcraft + flat cold enchant on boots too right?
Last edited by Enahkra on Dec 26, 2019, 6:22:40 PM
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Oh boy, time to remove all references to "league starter" from my guide. Hopefully Mathil goes the typical piscator's route so Poet's doesn't inflate even further (then again nobody ever bothered playing wander w/ Poet's til I wrote this guide so maybe they won't notice it's decent). Also, very nice stuff. Keep me updated on how T15+ metamorphs go, and how often you brick content. I really need that sort of feedback to understand the current limits of this build (that way I can let ppl know on the guide).

Also you're gonna get flat cold enchant on boots too right?


Yup, waiting for an uber lab day that doesn't massively suck (todays was horrible!)

Looks like Mathil is going ele wand route with Siphon clear and barrage single. If anything it might bump bow build prices on barrage...

So far for content - some random one shots on T16, 91-92 as a level took a while and I've bricked probably half my exp on 92 so far due to one shots. However that has been more to my error / over confidence than the build.

T15+ Metas - anything with increased phys etc will 1 tap with melee. Same rule as the Poets, burst then get out and wait for a window.

T15+ bosses - ranging from absolute joke to eh. I'll try and get some footage on some T16s with increased life etc this week. The only one I've ever had a vague problem with was Elder guardians where I forgot map mods effect them and gave them turbo+increased AoE+ damage increase. Again, not a damage issue just a don't get hit point.

Delve - currently depth 170ish and now pathing sideways. A breeze, not using cinderswallow though I will soon.

Watcher's Eye finally picked up and one more level to slot it. Currency this league is coming thick and fast so then it'll be an overhaul of the belt I think. Videos to follow if my PC will hold up.

Crafting Consortium - The Igloo Mirror Shop
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3283615
How would you play this as Deadeye? Since you lose elemental ailemnts immunity.

'cause I think deadeye is a lot better for mapping with tailwind, chain and extra arrow.

edit: or is maybe swapping to a semi 6l helmet with chain or smth better?
Last edited by LessFluff on Dec 26, 2019, 6:45:43 PM
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Enahkra wrote:

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streej wrote:
My current gear
Spoiler


Also i've got some base to work with:


Multimode -> attack speed -> crit/qual -> ele pen?



Holy shit that's a nice wand base; yes attack speed + crit/qual are better than the nerfed ele pen. Multimod only adds 2 extra mods which is dumb, so you'll prob have to yolo exalt it for the 6th mod. Make sure to keep a curse + wave of conviction setup (lvl 1 cwdt - lvl 5 proj weakness - lvl 7 wave) otherwise a corrupted Poet's might still be better for single target.

Honestly though, have you considered playing the bow build instead? You seem to have some very nice optimized crafts and playing the bow build will give you like 2-3x higher DPS ceiling and faceroll everything.


Funny, that i actually started to play ssf this league, after first week i just migrate to trade league, bought 2 arborix bows, linked it in 100 fusings both and sold it to make some bank ;D I think i might try bow build a bit later.
Last edited by streej on Dec 26, 2019, 11:47:06 PM

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