[3.9] Physical Conversion Bowyer | Wander [TS/LA/IS + Barrage] [KB + Power Siphon] [All Content]

Some minor updates to my earlier comments on the build - ran through anything low tier and is now quite comfortably farming up T14s and T15s and planning out for T16s.

Catalysts are a massive QOL for some items we use. If your running belt slot with all damage mods (ele damage specifically) the boost is huge. Look into getting the attack ones minimum for Mark of the Elder. They are currently 1c for 1. 20c is not much to drop into the boost it gives on flat damage.

Metamorphs - don't bother trying to face tank most of them at T14+. I've found it easiest to burst them down to 40-50%, wait for add spawn, proc fortify then clear adds with KB, reposition on metamorph and burst. Makes life a lot easier when you don't just try and dumb rush them down. It is doable but if you have any form of extra life or regen on them it'll be tough. Considering dropping Vaal Haste for Frost Bomb for T15+ lab ones.
Edit: small note, if you do this as above you will sometimes find they spawn adds just after death (animation locked maybe?). Don't mindlessly loot till you're 100% everything is dead. Caught me out twice.

For amulets - if you don't need the int (which you shouldn't with loreweave) then it might be worth having a crack at Jorgin in research for talisman. It does mean you can't use influence bases but every tier is not too bad. %damage, %cold damage, %attack and cast speed, crit multi etc etc. Not sure which tier I'll be trying yet but think its a solid upgrade path.

Current gear is much the same as previous comment, next big upgrades are a Flat Hatred Watchers, Fractal with Enchant and perfect flasks (Oak, ToH Atziri's).

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Some minor updates to my earlier comments on the build - ran through anything low tier and is now quite comfortably farming up T14s and T15s and planning out for T16s.

Catalysts are a massive QOL for some items we use. If your running belt slot with all damage mods (ele damage specifically) the boost is huge. Look into getting the attack ones minimum for Mark of the Elder. They are currently 1c for 1. 20c is not much to drop into the boost it gives on flat damage.

Metamorphs - don't bother trying to face tank most of them at T14+. I've found it easiest to burst them down to 40-50%, wait for add spawn, proc fortify then clear adds with KB, reposition on metamorph and burst. Makes life a lot easier when you don't just try and dumb rush them down. It is doable but if you have any form of extra life or regen on them it'll be tough. Considering dropping Vaal Haste for Frost Bomb for T15+ lab ones.
Edit: small note, if you do this as above you will sometimes find they spawn adds just after death (animation locked maybe?). Don't mindlessly loot till you're 100% everything is dead. Caught me out twice.

For amulets - if you don't need the int (which you shouldn't with loreweave) then it might be worth having a crack at Jorgin in research for talisman. It does mean you can't use influence bases but every tier is not too bad. %damage, %cold damage, %attack and cast speed, crit multi etc etc. Not sure which tier I'll be trying yet but think its a solid upgrade path.

Current gear is much the same as previous comment, next big upgrades are a Flat Hatred Watchers, Fractal with Enchant and perfect flasks (Oak, ToH Atziri's).

How much minimum amount of currency I need to have to go for this build?
Here are my calculations:
1) Loreweave = 7ex
2) Helm, 2 rings, amulet, boots, belt = ~1ex each
3) Poet's pen ~1ex

14ex in total, am I correct?

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areukiddingme wrote:

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Some minor updates to my earlier comments on the build - ran through anything low tier and is now quite comfortably farming up T14s and T15s and planning out for T16s.

Catalysts are a massive QOL for some items we use. If your running belt slot with all damage mods (ele damage specifically) the boost is huge. Look into getting the attack ones minimum for Mark of the Elder. They are currently 1c for 1. 20c is not much to drop into the boost it gives on flat damage.

Metamorphs - don't bother trying to face tank most of them at T14+. I've found it easiest to burst them down to 40-50%, wait for add spawn, proc fortify then clear adds with KB, reposition on metamorph and burst. Makes life a lot easier when you don't just try and dumb rush them down. It is doable but if you have any form of extra life or regen on them it'll be tough. Considering dropping Vaal Haste for Frost Bomb for T15+ lab ones.
Edit: small note, if you do this as above you will sometimes find they spawn adds just after death (animation locked maybe?). Don't mindlessly loot till you're 100% everything is dead. Caught me out twice.

For amulets - if you don't need the int (which you shouldn't with loreweave) then it might be worth having a crack at Jorgin in research for talisman. It does mean you can't use influence bases but every tier is not too bad. %damage, %cold damage, %attack and cast speed, crit multi etc etc. Not sure which tier I'll be trying yet but think its a solid upgrade path.

Current gear is much the same as previous comment, next big upgrades are a Flat Hatred Watchers, Fractal with Enchant and perfect flasks (Oak, ToH Atziri's).

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How much minimum amount of currency I need to have to go for this build?
Here are my calculations:
1) Loreweave = 7ex
2) Helm, 2 rings, amulet, boots, belt = ~1ex each
3) Poet's pen ~1ex

14ex in total, am I correct?

I think you can spend much less on boots, amulet and a ring. if I remember right it cost me roughly 1.5 ex for all 3.
Helm will probably 1-4ex depending if you got Starks or Fractal. Make sure you get the enchant (2 additional Proj). It's a huge upgrade.
Poets will probably cost you 10c without a corruption. I don't have one yet (it's next on the list) but 1-2ex for a good corruption (crit etc) is right.
Loreweave is coming down in price so it's your call whether or not you want to wait a few more days and see. Or just get a unlinked for 80-100c and try and link it. A 5 link would probably see you upto red maps at least.

You can easily start this build for roughly 10ex as follows:
Loreweave 6l - 7ex
Poets with no corruption - 14c
Helm - 2-4ex
Boots, amulet and offslot ring - 1-2ex (or less if you get creative with searches)
Mark of the elder - 80c (coming down again, will get cheaper also)

All in all I sank 12ex into this to start but a lot of that was laziness (i.e. buying an enlighten 3, buying all the unique flasks, corruption jewel etc).

Follow what Enahkra has laid out in the gearing section (post 3 - order of upgrade) and you could probably start even cheaper.

Hi

looking for new char for fast clear maps on awaken lvl 8. Will it work solo or i need support ?

Some gear i could use:


Regearing my current char will cost me 16ex so i'm looking for similar budget

should i go aspect of the cat on that and yolo exalt after? or just leave as it is, stack some currency and recraft later? Or maybe Multimode/ flat cold + all res?


The dexterity roll is good as well, since im using Fractal Thoughs

Hi,

Just want to give an update on the int stacking wander. I was able to pick up for 11 ex and my survivability skyrocketed. This is comparable to 1.5 elder ring worth of life on hit, except it also works on spells, so my cwdt ball lightning + wave of conviction will also proc it, making you practically immortal in maps.

Was able to do awakaner 8 with 1 death (spawned extra storm by accident), so at least the int stacking version I am confident I can do awakener deathless. Can practically facetank all other awakener abilities with the leech and es on hit, although the "die" beam gets me low so I still dodge that.

Only thing I die to now is metamorphs that can still one shot me through 10k es with some of its abilities, but farming t16 awakener 8 maps is a breeze (avoid -60% recovery maps though, those gets scaled to 75+ from the awakener bonus).

Downed Shaper today very easily! Love the build



Would you bother trying to craft on this?

Is it worth annulling Crit-multi so i can get another suffix?
(S) Multimod
(S) Craft 5% double damage (Already got double damage on jewel)
(or)
(P) 11-13%AttackSpeed
(P)and 9-10% Ele Pen?

Or would you just say the base is not good enough and not worth expanding on?

Would end up with;

Adds 3 to 116 Lightning Damage
36% increased Critical Strike Chance
5% Chance to deal Double Damage/12% AttackSpeed
Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 10% Elemental Resistances



Or if i do this, it has zero risk, but Im not sure if the investment is worth the outcome




Im extremely new to crafting so i really have no idea

Hey cool looking build what is the acutall pob for 3.9? i have 60ex to spend >D

in this pob u using lightning arrow as clearing skill on your videos ice shot_https://pastebin.com/rdU2wJ4W

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sielma wrote:

Hi

looking for new char for fast clear maps on awaken lvl 8. Will it work solo or i need support ?

Some gear i could use:

Regearing my current char will cost me 16ex so i'm looking for similar budget

It will work solo no problem, but keep in mind at the end of the day this is a ~5-5.5k life Ranger build, so you can't just mindlessly facetank every boss especially metamorph ones. Also the Awakener fight itself requires nailing down the mechanics, so if you're looking for a build more capable of cheesing everything I suggest something else or at least int stacking wander.

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Sswift415 wrote:

Have you done much playing with the new Thread of Hope Jewel? I have a "Very Large Radius" one I placed on the bottom of the tree next to golem's blood. I was able to get Hematophagy and Retaliation. The extra leech feels pretty nice actually and Retaliation is just attack speed and some damage. I'm sure theres tons of awesome tricks for this jewel but i'm not much of a theory crafter!

Hey there; I theorycrafted with it a little; another decent spot is a "Small" ring near Acrobatics. I think it allows you to pick up Silent Steps which is a good defensive boost as well as phase acro? (iirc). I haven't looked at the full range of options yet, but the several radii I checked didn't look too promising mainly b/c you needed to give up a jewel slot, ~30-40% resists, as well as the points required to spec into those notables which means you have to give up a good DPS/life cluster somewhere else. I'll check again in the future though; if you find any other location/radius that seems promising let me know!

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Some minor updates to my earlier comments on the build - ran through anything low tier and is now quite comfortably farming up T14s and T15s and planning out for T16s.

Catalysts are a massive QOL for some items we use. If your running belt slot with all damage mods (ele damage specifically) the boost is huge. Look into getting the attack ones minimum for Mark of the Elder. They are currently 1c for 1. 20c is not much to drop into the boost it gives on flat damage.

Metamorphs - don't bother trying to face tank most of them at T14+. I've found it easiest to burst them down to 40-50%, wait for add spawn, proc fortify then clear adds with KB, reposition on metamorph and burst. Makes life a lot easier when you don't just try and dumb rush them down. It is doable but if you have any form of extra life or regen on them it'll be tough. Considering dropping Vaal Haste for Frost Bomb for T15+ lab ones.
Edit: small note, if you do this as above you will sometimes find they spawn adds just after death (animation locked maybe?). Don't mindlessly loot till you're 100% everything is dead. Caught me out twice.

For amulets - if you don't need the int (which you shouldn't with loreweave) then it might be worth having a crack at Jorgin in research for talisman. It does mean you can't use influence bases but every tier is not too bad. %damage, %cold damage, %attack and cast speed, crit multi etc etc. Not sure which tier I'll be trying yet but think its a solid upgrade path.

Current gear is much the same as previous comment, next big upgrades are a Flat Hatred Watchers, Fractal with Enchant and perfect flasks (Oak, ToH Atziri's).

Very nice; Watching my playtester stream league content with this build, I can confirm what you're saying about the metamorph bosses. One thing to add though is that WoC's cold exposure and Frost Bomb's cold exposure don't stack so you won't get any additional DPS buffs from Frost Bomb. This build will be able to do almost all content, but as expected from a squishy ~5k life ranger build, there will be deaths if the mod combos are too rippy, and playing tactically will be very important in minimizing those deaths. Pretty much every T15+ boss requires a different technique/approach to defeat, which imo feels more fun and engaging but I can understand why some others would prefer being unkillable and just facetanking instead.

Oh yeah I also watched my playtester do T16 minotaur metamorph boss. That was undoable lol, the boss was outregening the damage. I think some stuff will just be too overtuned to do...

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shinyzee wrote:

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Downed Shaper today very easily! Love the build

Would you bother trying to craft on this?

Is it worth annulling Crit-multi so i can get another suffix?
(S) Multimod
(S) Craft 5% double damage (Already got double damage on jewel)
(or)
(P) 11-13%AttackSpeed
(P)and 9-10% Ele Pen?

Or would you just say the base is not good enough and not worth expanding on?

Would end up with;

Adds 3 to 116 Lightning Damage
36% increased Critical Strike Chance
5% Chance to deal Double Damage/12% AttackSpeed
Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 10% Elemental Resistances



Or if i do this, it has zero risk, but Im not sure if the investment is worth the outcome




Im extremely new to crafting so i really have no idea

Gz on the shaper kill!

I plugged that wand into my sample POB and it was worse than a corrupted Poet's w/ crit implicit. I think there might be some settings on your POB that weren't ticked (looking at that flat damage added numbers in that pic makes me think you might've not properly accounted for poet's curse + cold exposure effects).

The problem with comparing DPS numbers between Poet's and a rare wand on POB is that it usually overestimates rare wand DPS. Poet's gets a lot of DPS from guaranteed perma cold exposure from WoC (-25% cold resist) and "more damage" from proj weakness. Rare wands on the other hand cant readily proc this. You could manually proc wave of conviction, but this takes time whereas a Poet's Pen wander can start attacking right away (this loss of DPS from the 2-3 sec of setting up WoC isn't factored into POB).

A lot of rare wands will look good on POB, but when you actually use it, you won't feel like it's that much better than Poet's if at all. I think the only rare wands you should use are the ones that have more DPS than a Poet's even when Cold Exposure + proj weakness are ticked off on POB.

Anyway I wouldn't craft further on there (this build is almost pure cold, so flat lightning doesnt add too much to DPS). There are better ways to spend ~2-3 ex imo, and if there is a reasonable crafting method for rare wands Ill post it here after more testing (probably a flat cold/phys high tier essence)

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streej wrote:

should i go aspect of the cat on that and yolo exalt after? or just leave as it is, stack some currency and recraft later? Or maybe Multimode/ flat cold + all res?

The dexterity roll is good as well, since im using Fractal Thoughs

That's a very good ring tbh, and I think it's multimod-worthy. Yeah I'd go for flat cold as prefix, and for suffix I think +1 frenzy is better for single target bossing DPS. If you dont like that, I'd suggest +1 endurance instead for more tankiness; also endurance does give u 4% all res. There's also another hybrid suffix that gives crit chance/crit multi if you shatter I think, but this is of course only good for map bosses.

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Stealthyy wrote:

Hi,

Just want to give an update on the int stacking wander. I was able to pick up

for 11 ex and my survivability skyrocketed. This is comparable to 1.5 elder ring worth of life on hit, except it also works on spells, so my cwdt ball lightning + wave of conviction will also proc it, making you practically immortal in maps.

Was able to do awakaner 8 with 1 death (spawned extra storm by accident), so at least the int stacking version I am confident I can do awakener deathless. Can practically facetank all other awakener abilities with the leech and es on hit, although the "die" beam gets me low so I still dodge that.

Only thing I die to now is metamorphs that can still one shot me through 10k es with some of its abilities, but farming t16 awakener 8 maps is a breeze (avoid -60% recovery maps though, those gets scaled to 75+ from the awakener bonus).

Very nice! I'm getting pretty hyped about this; my playtester is going to go ahead with an int-stacking build in the next day or so too. I think this is a good option for those who love wanding but don't have the patience/mechanics to deal with Awakener on the life version. Since Sirus does so much chaos damage, having 10k+ ES as well as chaos immunity must be extremely nice, not to mention the ES recharge throughout the fight as well. How's your DPS btw? Whenever I did POB comparisons in the past, int stacking always had about half the DPS ceiling of the phys conversion one, but I don't think having ~3m DPS instead of ~5-6m DPS matters as much when you can stand there and mindlessly facetank.