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alt0172 wrote:

also what happened with solar guards? are they much worse than fire shamans?

id really like some insight on this aswell. its been a while since ive done summoner and was about to go solar guards as per usual.

whats the spectre meta now for single target and for map clear? is it really "just go slave drivers for everything" :O?

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kayella wrote:

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TheChosenOne_ wrote:

Is the Goatman Fire-raisers build good at everything including bosses? Can we switch from Goatman Fire-raisers to slave drivers without needing to change gear/gem socket colors? I heard slave driver's life was reduced by a lot so how can they survive when they were already fragile?

To effortlessly swap between GFRs (fire) and SDs (lightning) you will need to have at least 1 white socket in your 6L, because GFRs need GMP. Two whites is the ideal (GMP + Faster Proj).

The support aura is blue for both (Wrath vs Zealotry) and the EE proc is also blue for both (Arma Brand vs Storm Brand).

And there is no problem with slave driver survivability in 3.8?

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mccready wrote:

Quick question: Is it safe to get rolling with 3.7 leveling trees?

but there is 3.8 tree - under

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alt0172 wrote:

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mccready wrote:

Quick question: Is it safe to get rolling with 3.7 leveling trees?

but there is 3.8 tree - under

I'm asking because the Path of Building pastebin yells at me for being on 3.7 and the full 3.8 tree doesn't tell a newbie in what order to progress through the tree. Or I'm too stupid. Please help?

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kayella wrote:

Wand & shield can be endgame as well. It's just that Pledge of Hands is a level 68 item and comes from Legion (and div cards), so they may be quite rare, especially early in the league. Also because it's STR/INT, it's very hard to get 6 blue sockets.

Vorici calculator says that 113 str and 113 int requirements needs ~120 chromes on average to get 6 blue sockets. That's around 12-20 chaos.

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alt0172 wrote:

also why don't take offering node with pledge variant? for 3 passive points (whirling barrier node) + 2 asc points you can get 55% regular and 36% spell block + over 500 life on block from bone offering

Nice idea, but i prefer using it with wand and shield (without necromantic aegis) and rumi's concoction, we could have max block necro.

One more thing, if you have high life, your CWDT will be: CWDT + Immortal call + Desecrate + Spirit Offerring => this will give you ES = 15% of your max life, with can be 800-1000ES for healing

Kay! Just watched angryroleplayer's film about nectomancer rework. He said 100% spectre life/dmg node which was deleted now makes them squishy and overall shitty.

Im not into summoners so just wanted to hear Yours opinion Mate, and all of You Guys, mabe it was said before couldnt find.

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premierunio wrote:

Kay! Just watched angryroleplayer's film about nectomancer rework. He said 100% spectre life/dmg node which was deleted now makes them squishy and overall shitty.

Im not into summoners so just wanted to hear Yours opinion Mate, and all of You Guys, mabe it was said before couldnt find.

That's pretty much reactionary nonsense. Spectres will be, at worst, slightly weaker for poorer characters when you get to maps (which is debatable, as you might actually have higher level spectres at that point, especially for SSF). With a little investment (especially considering the 20% MORE life in Necromancer and all the physical/elemental resistance nodes on the tree for minions) they will be tougher, unless GGG nerfs base monsters without us knowing.

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mccready wrote:

I'm asking because the Path of Building pastebin yells at me for being on 3.7 and the full 3.8 tree doesn't tell a newbie in what order to progress through the tree. Or I'm too stupid. Please help?

You're absolutely right!

Totally forgot about the levelling tree. I only fixed the end tree.

I'll get onto it.

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premierunio wrote:

Kay! Just watched angryroleplayer's film about nectomancer rework. He said 100% spectre life/dmg node which was deleted now makes them squishy and overall shitty.

Im not into summoners so just wanted to hear Yours opinion Mate, and all of You Guys, mabe it was said before couldnt find.

There was a lot of fear, uncertainty and doubt going into the necro rework. Then there were the leaks and the piecemeal release of info by GGG. Lots of people went crazy and said spectres are dead (because the full picture wasn't given).

I can guarantee you that spectres are perfectly fine. GGG has rebalanced them to become a lot more accessible now. And while they do have a weaker mid-point, they can scale higher with better gear. We also have new gem interactions to exploit.

As always I will be actively maintaining this build throughout the beginning of the league and there will be a lot of feedback and theorycrafting in the thread. If you decide to follow this build guide, I think you will have a good time.