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Is the Goatman Fire-raisers build good at everything including bosses? Can we switch from Goatman Fire-raisers to slave drivers without needing to change gear/gem socket colors? I heard slave driver's life was reduced by a lot so how can they survive when they were already fragile?

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TheChosenOne_ wrote:

Is the Goatman Fire-raisers build good at everything including bosses? Can we switch from Goatman Fire-raisers to slave drivers without needing to change gear/gem socket colors? I heard slave driver's life was reduced by a lot so how can they survive when they were already fragile?

With the new Indomitable Army node group, I don't think SD have any survival issues, if you still worry about them, you could use elemental army support instead of controlled destruction.

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40700569 wrote:

Ops, I mean we could give feeding frenzy support to other minions, then they give us the buff which affects all our minions, not giving support direct to raise spectres

You misread Feeding Frenzy Support. It says "Minions from supported skills deal 24% more damage while you have Feeding Frenzy"
Throwing it onto another minion wouldn't buff spectres at all.

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Nuraihyon wrote:

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40700569 wrote:

Ops, I mean we could give feeding frenzy support to other minions, then they give us the buff which affects all our minions, not giving support direct to raise spectres

You misread Feeding Frenzy Support. It says "Minions from supported skills deal 24% more damage while you have Feeding Frenzy"
Throwing it onto another minion wouldn't buff spectres at all.

Maybe you don't know, Feeding Frenzy is a buff that the minions support by this Gem will grant you on hit by them with 25% chance, you can find more information about this Gem here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627888

And this is the buff info from GGG in Reddit:

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Feeding Frenzy's reminder text: (Feeding Frenzy grants 10% more Minion Damage, 15% increased Minion Movement Speed and 15% increased Minion Attack and Cast Speed)

This is the way they balance this gem with others minions support gem (like Death Mark …) and give player more options for building a minion army with different purposes on each minions

Therefore, our spectres could get benefit from the buff itself, which give them more damage and cast speed (movement speed maybe capped)

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Nuraihyon wrote:

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40700569 wrote:

Ops, I mean we could give feeding frenzy support to other minions, then they give us the buff which affects all our minions, not giving support direct to raise spectres

You misread Feeding Frenzy Support. It says "Minions from supported skills deal 24% more damage while you have Feeding Frenzy"
Throwing it onto another minion wouldn't buff spectres at all.

i think he meant by when the supported minion hit something and get Feeding Frenzy buff which gives (Feeding Frenzy grants 10% more Minion Damage, 15% increased Minion Movement Speed and 15% increased Minion Attack and Cast Speed) this buff can benefit the spectres we summoned

for fire based spectres it can be possible to have srs support

srs - ele army - feeding frenzy

srs will apply fire exposure (-10% fire res) and give "10% more Minion Damage, 15% increased Minion Movement Speed and 15% increased Minion Attack and Cast Speed" + as side effect it will activate all "if you used minion skills recently" things. problem is finding 3L for this...


also what happened with solar guards? are they much worse than fire shamans?

So if i understood well- pledge is endgame and wand/shield is budget? Seein on all Kays videos playing pledge.
Btw thats my league starter :D

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premierunio wrote:

So if i understood well- pledge is endgame and wand/shield is budget? Seein on all Kays videos playing pledge.
Btw thats my league starter :D

Wand & shield can be endgame as well. It's just that Pledge of Hands is a level 68 item and comes from Legion (and div cards), so they may be quite rare, especially early in the league. Also because it's STR/INT, it's very hard to get 6 blue sockets.

In contrast, wand & shield works from server start, and you can upgrade the wand or shield incrementally.

It's also possible to use the Pledge of Hands passive tree with Wand & Shield, so you can get 9k+ eHP (but you give up Phase Acro).

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alt0172 wrote:

for fire based spectres it can be possible to have srs support

srs - ele army - feeding frenzy

srs will apply fire exposure (-10% fire res) and give "10% more Minion Damage, 15% increased Minion Movement Speed and 15% increased Minion Attack and Cast Speed" + as side effect it will activate all "if you used minion skills recently" things. problem is finding 3L for this...


also what happened with solar guards? are they much worse than fire shamans?

Your idea will work! You would use the 4-link Animate Guardian group. For example if you are using fire spectres: Links = AG + Ele Army + Feeding Frenzy + Combustion. You will need a Ghastly Eye jewel with minions have added fire damage. So now when your AG hits something, they will proc ignite for -19% (combustion), -10% (elemental army exposure) & feeding frenzy. You probably have a -9% fire helmet on it as well. That's already -38% fire res.