[3.7] LL RF Scorching Ray Guardian | 19K ES | 52k Armour|1.5 mil dps| Uber Elder & HoGM DEATHLESS

Hi all,

Been following a combination of this build and the poe.ninja site. I'm looking to start filling in the holes in the build and I have a few questions.

First off I figures the bulds at 100 do not have gear that might work for a level 80 characters so I'd like some advice.

Belt - running the cyclopean right now but see lots people in here running energy shield recovery is there any reason to run the cyclopean belt other than stat boosts?

Rings - I'm currently on the look out for the rings to replace my Kikus, we want mainly str mana and energy shield on these correct?

Boots - I got the 1.5% enchanct on some decent boots but I really want movement speed on them, might reroll them or buy new.

Amulet - I'm running the stat boost one is it better to run chayulas or is it a trade off of chaos resist vs nice stat boosts?

Regen - my regen is not as high as I would like. Being that I have to keep on a Kik ring to break even without flask or boot enchant. I'm not sure if this is due to taking too much regen off the skill tree or my gear.

Bandits - I helped all but in PoB the oak benefits seem minor would the 2 skill.poonts be better now?


I'd like some advice on what I should focus on next. My current goal is to raise the money for the watchers eye then move on from there.

My character is lowcut_lowlife in betrayal and it's a wip but any help is appreciated


https://pastebin.com/5u6jxFTZ

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Kronodude wrote:

Hi all,

Been following a combination of this build and the poe.ninja site. I'm looking to start filling in the holes in the build and I have a few questions.

First off I figures the bulds at 100 do not have gear that might work for a level 80 characters so I'd like some advice.

Belt - running the cyclopean right now but see lots people in here running energy shield recovery is there any reason to run the cyclopean belt other than stat boosts?

Rings - I'm currently on the look out for the rings to replace my Kikus, we want mainly str mana and energy shield on these correct?

Boots - I got the 1.5% enchanct on some decent boots but I really want movement speed on them, might reroll them or buy new.

Amulet - I'm running the stat boost one is it better to run chayulas or is it a trade off of chaos resist vs nice stat boosts?

Regen - my regen is not as high as I would like. Being that I have to keep on a Kik ring to break even without flask or boot enchant. I'm not sure if this is due to taking too much regen off the skill tree or my gear.

Bandits - I helped all but in PoB the oak benefits seem minor would the 2 skill.poonts be better now?


I'd like some advice on what I should focus on next. My current goal is to raise the money for the watchers eye then move on from there.

My character is lowcut_lowlife in betrayal and it's a wip but any help is appreciated

Hi,

First you should keep in mind few things about LL RF Guardian based on Mem Vault, Shaper's Touch and Prism Guardian. Poe.ninja build does not provide any forme of detailed information about a build. It only show you a ranked list of characters considering lvl, life, es based on ascendency, skills and stuff played.
And it only focus on top tier build that have the most highest lvl, life and/or ES. This does not means the character is balanced, but only that it is min-maxed in terme of those stats. So you have to keep in mind that there is a huge limite in this source of information.
At the same time, a guide provide a concept of build with some generic advice to people in orther to provide the basic knowledge to run a build. And so, a guide have to be flexible enought to make people run a build on budget, while Poe.ninja will hide all budget build because they will end up with low stats.

Seclondly, there is so basic reasons why we are suggesting some items choice rather than those played by top ranked character on poe.ninja build leaderboard.
So let jump to your questions :
- The belt : %ES recovery rate is highly recommanded from budget build to high end build. This will buff a lot your "Net life regen" and will provide you a huge boost to your survivability.
Elder belt may be played for the %increased attributes. It's extremly powerfull, but it will be viable for this build only after a certain level (I would say lvl 96+), and/or if you have some specifics items : Watcher's Eye that provide a regen buff in addition to the Clarity buff. But those watcher's eye are realy expensive (15+ex for a Vitality version, and if you are looking for a %es recovery rate with discipline in addition to Clarity buff, then it will be more close than 45-50ex).
%Increased Attributes is a formidable affixe and can provide a lot of dps and ES, but at the same time you will have to sacrify you regen, and so a part of your tankiness for this. So here, we do not talk about it because it's only relevant for people who have reached a realy high lvl of stuff. That's why you are seeing so much Elder belt on Poe.ninja while here we suggest a shaper belt. Because shaper belt is a cheap solution that help a lot this build to sustain RF while on low stuff.

- Rings : Looks for str/intel/ES/mana/flat cold or light dmg to attacks on your first ring. On your second ring, looks for str/intel/dex/ES/mana (dex will be needed only if you are playing Chayula).

- Boots : If your boots have less than 180ES, it might be better to play Sin Trek. Otherwise a rare paire of boots with the highest ES possible and 25+ move speed is good enought. An other version consist in playing hybride boots providing a lot of str/intel/mana/move speed and some ES. But it have to be extremly high rolled to be competitive with Sin Trek.

- Amulet : Presence of Chayula is not needed at all. It's only a QoL amulet because of the anti-stun and +60% chaos res. Otherwise, a rare amulet with a lots of stats, or an Eyes of the Greatwolf with "%inc all attributes" may provide better result in terme of stats.
Astramantis is an excellente cheap solution that may help you until end game.

- Renge : At your level you should not need Kikazaru anymore. On my Betrayal RF I didn't played it at all. I'm lvl 84, and already have 850+ net life regen (without any temporary buff like boots enchant or flask), with almost 11k ES, and I don't rely on Oak bandit reward. I play the +2 skill.
If you struggle with your regen, there is many solution. Your tree looks good, so I would say you should looks for a belt with %ES recovery rate (shaper base), and, if needed a Transcendant Mind in the jewel slot between MoM and EE. You will lose 50 intel, but will win 2% ES regen (for me it provide +350 net life regen and cost me ~300ES). Look the FAQ of zzang, he gave some advice to sustain RF and have a good net life regen.

- Bandit : Start with Oak. But once you have enought regen and can drop it, respect this reward for +2 skill points. Generaly, for most peoples it's good to do this around lvl 92. At lvl 92 we start to have high level gems and enought stuff and currency to do stuff change that alow us to reach those stats.

As a general advice, if you want a specific character review, you should post the pastebin of your character. It's easier for us to provide you a build check. Even if we can import your character from account name on PoB, when you did this 7-8 times in a row in order to help people it start to be realy anoying.
Help us to help you, post your pastebin. ;)

Thanks for the help I'll look into the advice to help boost the regen and solidify the build. I was on mobile when I posted so I couldn't upload my PoB for the build. Will edit it in later when I get home.

Also question I'm getting frozen a lot what does the build take to mitigate that effect and does anyone take the light radius on energy shield passive just for QoL

Hello! Could you check my build and point me where to go from here please?

https://pastebin.com/V2vSfA6x

Thanks!!

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PaiDoMato wrote:

Hello! Could you check my build and point me where to go from here please?

https://pastebin.com/V2vSfA6x

Thanks!!

Hi,

The orientation of your build is totaly different from this one.
There is 2 other guides that might be closer to your build. You should take a look about those build and, ask for help right there :
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1840270
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816656

If you want to change the orientation of your build, feel free to come back and we will try to help you.

Good luck.

I just started to play this builds. Lvl 81 feels amazing - 14.5k ES

I have couple of questions:

1. Which belt is better in the end game? ES recovery or %Attributes? (I Have only 18% Mana to ES watchers eye)

2. Which setup is better to use 6l Scorching Ray or 6l RF(with Arcane Surge + Swift Affliction)? Cuz on Poe Ninja they are using mostly 6l RF

Could you kindly check my character - BornWithAutism and advice on which updates I should work from now on. My estimated available budget is around 6 exa for now.

Here is the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/t754Qkki

All right, thank you!!!

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gopotan wrote:

I just started to play this builds. Lvl 81 feels amazing - 14.5k ES

I have couple of questions:

1. Which belt is better in the end game? ES recovery or %Attributes? (I Have only 18% Mana to ES watchers eye)

2. Which setup is better to use 6l Scorching Ray or 6l RF(with Arcane Surge + Swift Affliction)? Cuz on Poe Ninja they are using mostly 6l RF

Could you kindly check my character - BornWithAutism and advice on which updates I should work from now on. My estimated available budget is around 6 exa for now.

Here is the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/t754Qkki

1. The only answer is "it depends on your level and on your gear lvl".
You should always have between 5-10% of your max ES as "Net life regen" (without temp/bullshit buff). So if you have 10k ES, you should have between 500 and 1000 net life regen. If you have 15k ES you should have between 750 and 1500 net life regen, and so on.
If you can keep at very least 5% of your max ES as your Net life regen, without buff like boots enchant, flask buffs, etc. and without %ES recovery on belt, then geting %inc Attributes on your belt may be a reasonnable choice. But as said, it depends on your level and your gear lvl.

2 Again, it depends on what you are runing.
6L VRF is a setup that was highly played in Delve because this setup fited Delve gameplay. The 6L SR setup is a gem setup more dedicated to boss killing.
But if we consider strictly the stats, a 6L SR provide + 4L VRF setup will provide more dps than a 6L VRF + 3-4L SR setup.
Also, you should consider the fact that if you Delve in a depth range around 300-350, a 4L VRF with 20/20 gems setup and a correct stuff should be enought to kill every mobs without taking too much time.
A 6L VRF setup should not be needed before depth 400-450.
For general maping, even in T16, a 6L VRF setup is absolutly not needed. Mobs will melt like butter (otherwise, you do it wrong).

@lagrossesimone hi/salut , could you please check my character and tell me which build looks better ? i don't understand how can you can sustain 7 auras without much mana (i followed another build, but i feel like switching to yours since it will be more dmg and chaos resistance which is my main weakness)

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Eko13 wrote:

@lagrossesimone hi/salut , could you please check my character and tell me which build looks better ? i don't understand how can you can sustain 7 auras without much mana (i followed another build, but i feel like switching to yours since it will be more dmg and chaos resistance which is my main weakness)

I just started with this and i am no expert but i think i can help here :).


Aura Setup is like this:
3 Auras in Prism Guardian.
3 Auras linked to lvl 4(?) Enlighten.
+ Clarity on low Level X so it reserves not too much mana.
+ 3(?) times - 4% reduced Mana Reservation from Skilltree.
(Disregard my Char, its wrong there atm.)

The guide isn't very clear about this and only points this out in the FAQ or/and if you check the Gear-Links.


I have a question myself:
I atm have a Watcher's eye with Disciplin/ES-Reg and X% Physdamage taken as Firedamage. Is a Clarity watchers eye much better?
A disciplin/clarity Watcher's eye is ridiculously expensive so I have to choose. My gut tells me that Clarity is way better but i didn't think that far at the time because i still struggled a bit with regen :).