[3.7] LL RF Scorching Ray Guardian | 19K ES | 52k Armour|1.5 mil dps| Uber Elder & HoGM DEATHLESS

Hi, guys. Been following the Lagrossimone version of the build and been working wonders. So much so that around lvl 92 I tryed Uber Elder... and got my ass kicked. Hard.

Don't take that as a complaint, in fact this is the thoughtest build that I ever run and I believe that I may try Uber Elder again in future. Right now my char it's pretty close to lvl 92 12ex version of the build (with the screaming absence of the Clarity Watcher's Eye - no currency for that yet) and I'm looking for guidance:

1) In what lvl / ES did you manage to get Uber Elder down? Right now I'm lvl 93 with 11500ish ES

2) Is it worth it to buy a pure regen Watcher's Eye (% ES regen with Discipline or flat regen with Vitality)? I figure it is more QoL, specially against some punishing map mods

I leave my gear for the reference (guindance of upgrades is welcomed, as always, but I'm trying to save for the Clarity Watcher's Eye).

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You are missing boot enchants for life extra % life regeneration.

Your belt is 19% energy shield recovery, divine or buy a new belt that gives you 20%, 1% matters.

You're missing the Shaper node on the passive tree for a 1% life regeneration. Sequentially, you could take the life regeneration nodes next to it instead of the max mana nodes and take the jewel slot to put your watchers eye in. That's another 0.7% regen.

just eyeing things off your characters profile.

ty god

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iceandfire2907 wrote:

Hi, I'm following your build and now im trying to get more net life regen but I seem to be missing some pieces but I cannot figure it out. Can you give my current build a review? https://pastebin.com/YsxwnfHS

Try with this tree : https://pastebin.com/XBXUkXCu

With this tree you will need some dex but this can be fixed with stuff upgrade :
- Upgrade your prism guardian to a 30dex ;
- Get a well rolled Memory Vault (150+ES / 190+mana);
- Death door is not needed, Sin Trek or a high ES rare paire of boots will do the job most of the time. Death Door is, in my eyes, not needed at all. A staunching flask do the job, and except in situation where you will be under Vulnerability (which can be avoided most of the time), you won't need DD. Even under Vulnerability you will not need thoses boots most of the times. The 2% regen uber lab enchant is also extremly helpfull for the regen in fight ;
- Vivinsect does not provide anything in this build. You waste a ring slot ;
- %ES on rare jewels is mandatory. Jewels without %ES should be ignored ;
- Try to get a Watcher eye with the Clarity mods ;
- Sorrow of the Divine does not provide anything. You waste a flask slot ;
- remove Blind support from your OoS setup and switch it for Arcane Surge (lvl 7 max) ;
- Remove Inc Crit Strike support form your Shield Charge setup. While you don't have any source of flat elemental dmg, you should switch it for an Added lightning damage support. Level this gems only to sell it afterwards, otherwise a lvl 1 is good enought ;
- Swwitch Discipline with Portal.

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Chico1988 wrote:

Hi, guys. Been following the Lagrossimone version of the build and been working wonders. So much so that around lvl 92 I tryed Uber Elder... and got my ass kicked. Hard.

Don't take that as a complaint, in fact this is the thoughtest build that I ever run and I believe that I may try Uber Elder again in future. Right now my char it's pretty close to lvl 92 12ex version of the build (with the screaming absence of the Clarity Watcher's Eye - no currency for that yet) and I'm looking for guidance:

1) In what lvl / ES did you manage to get Uber Elder down? Right now I'm lvl 93 with 11500ish ES

2) Is it worth it to buy a pure regen Watcher's Eye (% ES regen with Discipline or flat regen with Vitality)? I figure it is more QoL, specially against some punishing map mods

I leave my gear for the reference (guindance of upgrades is welcomed, as always, but I'm trying to save for the Clarity Watcher's Eye).

I would not support the idea to try to fight uber Elder without the Clarity Watcher's Eye.
And at the same time, a minimum of 600+ net life regen (without temp buff like flask or boots enchant) and something like 14k ES is mandatory in my eyes to be cool with the fight.

2-3 things for this fight :
- The more regen you have, the safier you will be ;
- The more ES you have, the tankier and safier you will be ;
- You have to prepare a specific flask setup for Uber Elder fight. Personnaly I play it with :
- 1 Witchfire brew (can arguably be switched for a defensive flask if your dps is high enought) ;
- 1 Sulphure flask ;
- 1 or 2 Ruby Flask ;
- 1 or 2 Sapphir flask.
- Magical Flask only provide anti freeze / extra duration.

Note, last league a guy achieved a Deathless totaly afk Uber Elder kill with his Guardian LL RF. But it was with a different version of the build in standard, and with legacy/mirror tier stuff (he had like 5k net life regen and ~20k ES).

Here is my review of this build. This is my first entry to an ES and LL build. It's great for survivability, this is the first build I kill the lightning guardian without dying. I haven't taken it to uber elder but I believe it will survive once I get all the gear I wanted. This build is great if you know what stat to look for. It's can be troubling if you don't have access to PoB to check if a gear is useful to your build or not. I'm almost able to get this character the best gear I possibly can invest in a build (15-20exish)
Paste bin: https://pastebin.com/YpuGFSdM
Key thing to look for:
_21 purity of fire
_a +1 shaper's touch to get enlighten to lv 4 to get the aura reserving less mana so you can run all 7 auras without going for more reduce mana reserve node
_regenerate 2% life and mana enchant on boot, the build is doing death door so you would get a free flask but you can run sin trek for more ES
_20% ES recovery rate, IT HAS TO BE 20%, throughout following the build, I or even you will start to know, how significant a 1% recovery rate is toward the grand scheme of Net life regen in PoB. It's can be improved further by the ruby flask, which in my case(without the 2% regen enchant) an extra 250 net life regen, which is huge.
_a ring with 50 strength, ES, mana, life is your least desired stat cause only 20% of that is converted to ES if you're using the Presence of Chayula, if not. Then why are you even need life??
Take all the life % regen as possible to get more net life regen, of course, this would be converted to ES recovery rate.
_a watcher's eye with flat life regen while Vitality. One with life recovery rate don't give you more net life regen. If you want to min-max, a watcher's eye like in the build is cool. If it's used in my current PoB, it will increase my ES by 1k4, more burning damage.
PS: belt's life recovery rate doesn't do anything bc I believe it doing it buff after the life regen is converted to ES regen.

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LAGROSSESIMONE wrote:

I would not support the idea to try to fight uber Elder without the Clarity Watcher's Eye.
And at the same time, a minimum of 600+ net life regen (without temp buff like flask or boots enchant) and something like 14k ES is mandatory in my eyes to be cool with the fight.

2-3 things for this fight :
- The more regen you have, the safier you will be ;
- The more ES you have, the tankier and safier you will be ;
- You have to prepare a specific flask setup for Uber Elder fight. Personnaly I play it with :
- 1 Witchfire brew (can arguably be switched for a defensive flask if your dps is high enought) ;
- 1 Sulphure flask ;
- 1 or 2 Ruby Flask ;
- 1 or 2 Sapphir flask.
- Magical Flask only provide anti freeze / extra duration.

Note, last league a guy achieved a Deathless totaly afk Uber Elder kill with his Guardian LL RF. But it was with a different version of the build in standard, and with legacy/mirror tier stuff (he had like 5k net life regen and ~20k ES).

Thanks, now I have some benchmark to what I have to look for.

Am i supposed to generate endurance charges with this build?

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Parthieon wrote:

Am i supposed to generate endurance charges with this build?

As far as I can tell, no. Unless you go out of your way and make a setup with your movement skill + Endurance Charge on melee stun support, but doesn't seem to be worth it.

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Saladin2 wrote:

is the current tree of the build made for 3.5? i wanna use it for betrayal league

There are few changes, really. Some good new crafting options, but those affect mostly only the belt slot (there are a new Hybrid Str Int that feels the best of both worlds).
Like I said, I recommend looking at page 137, versions of the build 2ex to 15ex, are more realistic to mere mortals (no Clarity + regen watcher's eye, no Death's Door).

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Parthieon wrote:

Am i supposed to generate endurance charges with this build?

Nope. We don't.
Unless you play a setup with Enduring Cry, but while we don't have any bonus that may increase the duration and effect of Endurance charges, like a Jugger, the benefits of this type of setup seems to be realy limited and agruable.

Also, where should i make improvements with this build? I was thinking with starting with my boots, since its probly the cheapest to upgrade first. Also if anyone has tips for leveling that would be great.

https://pastebin.com/eDyaVkfX

I'm wandering if this have any space in this build. It seams to be fine to good for mapping. Thoughts?