[3.7] LL RF Scorching Ray Guardian | 19K ES | 52k Armour|1.5 mil dps| Uber Elder & HoGM DEATHLESS

Thanks for the info guys. Decided to go forward with the guardian based on your opinions of the guardian vs trickster versions. You guys confirmed my suspicions that this build would have better survivability and an easier time with bosses than my current trickster. Played from 77 to 82 tonight and just picked up Warrior's blood. Noticeable improvement already. I switched up the gems a bit to squeeze in a stone golem and enduring cry. I'll drop enduring cry once I get the rest of the tree and my gear worked out better, but for now it's a great temporary boost to es regen when needed.

Here's the gear I'm using for now. Had to buy the belt, but the rings I already had stashed. Will save up for the watcher's eye, before I try getting better rings or higher rolls on the other gear.
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stoudtlr wrote:
Thanks for the info guys. Decided to go forward with the guardian based on your opinions of the guardian vs trickster versions. You guys confirmed my suspicions that this build would have better survivability and an easier time with bosses than my current trickster. Played from 77 to 82 tonight and just picked up Warrior's blood. Noticeable improvement already. I switched up the gems a bit to squeeze in a stone golem and enduring cry. I'll drop enduring cry once I get the rest of the tree and my gear worked out better, but for now it's a great temporary boost to es regen when needed.

Here's the gear I'm using for now. Had to buy the belt, but the rings I already had stashed. Will save up for the watcher's eye, before I try getting better rings or higher rolls on the other gear.
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Looks good enough to start, make sure you get your hands on a lvl 21 purity of fire for your shield as soon as you can, a lvl 21 ice would be good too but less of a rush.

for 6L RF i would recommend switching your efficacy gem for an increased aoe gem for mapping and a concentrated effect gem for bosses. that should give you better clear speed for maps and better dmg for bosses. The more spell damage part of efficacy does nothing for RF.

if you can get your hands on a +2 aura pair of shaper's touch gloves make sure you grab those as well, it will give you more res/es/regen.

Its very worth it to run a bunch of uber labs to get the 2% regen enchant on your boots, i think the most it has ever taken me was around 20, usually rather less than that.

When you have currency to spare you will be able to buy/craft a new belt as well, once delve is over you should have a much easier time with that too.


still, looking like a good start, hope ya have fun with it m8.
Thanks for the info Kazeshi. I'm working on the boot enchant now. The PoF I just corrupted before posting. At least it stayed at 20 instead of dropping to 19. PoL I got lucky and hit on first attempt.I've got two more PoF I'm leveling to try next. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Hey guys, how exactly Arcane Surge works for the 6L Vaal RF setup?
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babsbegood wrote:
Hey guys, how exactly Arcane Surge works for the 6L Vaal RF setup?


It gives RF the duration tag so swift affliction works with it.
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stoudtlr wrote:
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babsbegood wrote:
Hey guys, how exactly Arcane Surge works for the 6L Vaal RF setup?


It gives RF the duration tag so swift affliction works with it.


Cool, thanks for the answer.
Hi Guys,

I just switched to this build since had most of the gear after playing as a summoner. Can someone help me guide if I am doing it correct and how I can improve it as atm my RF dmg is below 100k. I do T15 fairly easily but when I see others POB their RF dmg is above 300-500k at lvl 92. I think i can improve on my belt and jewels lacking 8% ES. I still have around maybe 10 ex if sell the fusing n chaos. Would appreciate how to spend wisely focusing on which stats and gear I need to improve.

My POB link https://pastebin.com/Dtj2nAV3

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EuroPOE wrote:
For the belt, I have to roll a shaped crystal or also a base one is better than a heavy belt with ES regen?


2 possibility :
Crystal belt or heavy belt.
Crystal belt is excellent in terme of stats implicit but are realy rare and so, expensive.
Heavy belt have, imo a better potential for min max, and are realy common. So it's easy to find a ilvl 84+ for cheap.

Personnaly I highly recommand heavy belt.


While trying to craft a heavy one, what about this unique??
Went for a Shaper test drive, you literally do not need to move during this fight, only to keep the floor clean of course.

Dragon Ball Z Moment:
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Can someone please look at my char to see if i should try uber elder or if i need to improve more?
Im currently on lvl 93 with 12.7k ES

My PoB:
https://pastebin.com/85UVQe1t

Thanks to kazeshi and LAGROSSESIMONE for the help.


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Lapsi wrote:
Hi Guys,

I just switched to this build since had most of the gear after playing as a summoner. Can someone help me guide if I am doing it correct and how I can improve it as atm my RF dmg is below 100k. I do T15 fairly easily but when I see others POB their RF dmg is above 300-500k at lvl 92. I think i can improve on my belt and jewels lacking 8% ES. I still have around maybe 10 ex if sell the fusing n chaos. Would appreciate how to spend wisely focusing on which stats and gear I need to improve.

My POB link https://pastebin.com/Dtj2nAV3



For me, you have 142k dps in RF against Shaper without flask buff in Conc Effect.
To improve this, you should get 20/20 gems. Also, you should get a Watcher's Eye with reserved mana convert in ES with Clarity. This should provide you ~20% more ES & dps.

To give you a quick comparaison, with the proper Watcher's Eye and 14.5k ES, in Delve I have 200k against Shaper, in conc effect, without flask buff. And I think we could say I'm correctly stuffed.

People with RF dmg above 300-500k dmg are playing a 6L RF, or some version with over 18k ES or just they check marked many temporary buff. So in this last situation, it's more a dps showcase than effective dps because of those bullshit buff.

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EuroPOE wrote:
While trying to craft a heavy one, what about this unique??


Nope. Bated Breath provide "%ES recharge rate" while we are looking for "%ES recovery rate".
This little difference in word used is here to point a difference in how the affixe works in the regen formula.
"Recharge rate" works exactly as "increase" afffixes. And "Recovery rate" works exactly as "more" affixe. It's additive buff vs multiplicative buff.

This build absolutly need at least 1 source of "%ES recovery rate" affixe. You can get it on belt, for a very cheap price thanks to the shaper belts, or on Watcher's Eye.
So this leave us with 2 possibility.
1. You don't have your "ES recovery rate" on your Watcher's Eye. Then you will need it on belt. You have to play a rare shaper belt with this affixe. So there is no room/place for Bated Breath.
2. You have your "ES recovery rate" on your Watcher's Eye. Then you can skip it from your belt. So hypotheticaly Bated Breath may be usable. But sadly, in this situation, Bated Breath will face the concurence of Elder belt with %increase Attributes affixe which with descent roll will provide way more than Bated Breath.
So in all way, there is better solution in rare, or even in unique.

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babsbegood wrote:
Went for a Shaper test drive, you literally do not need to move during this fight, only to keep the floor clean of course.

Dragon Ball Z Moment:
Spoiler


Can someone please look at my char to see if i should try uber elder or if i need to improve more?
Im currently on lvl 93 with 12.7k ES

My PoB:
https://pastebin.com/85UVQe1t

Thanks to kazeshi and LAGROSSESIMONE for the help.


You need more ES imo. This means, getting some Intel on rings, and upgrade some jewels.

/Edit : To explain a bit about my commentary ...
Uber Elder fight is an encounter where Elder and especialy Shaper will do way more dmg. And Because you are fighting the two at the same time, this means there is a lot of source of hit in this fight.

Unless you know perfectly the fight mecanics, it's hard to dodge everything. So you will be hit from time to time to frequently.
Some hits will leave you with not so much ES.

The shaper balls are especialy deadly. With 14k ES, 83% cold res and 50k armour, you should be able to tank 2 balls. The third might be fatal.

In this fight you need 3 things :
- A realy high ES pool. Imo, 14k ES is the strict minimum. It's certainely possible to do it with less, but you will need to know the fight in every detail and you will have to dodge most of the hit you may take ;
- An extremly high amount of regen. Do not consider doing this fight with less than +600 net life regen without situationnal buff (so no flask buff, no boots enchant buff) ;
- 2 Anti freeze Flask, splited between Sapphir flask and Ruby flask.

The greatest difficulty of this fight is the "no go AOE zone" that proc periodicaly all along the fight. The Shaper's one can be managed. But the degen area of Elder are the most annoying.
Because of this, you will need a good balance in terme of dps and survivability. A too low dps will result in a longer fight. A longer fight result in an increasing amount of those shity aoe zones, and restrain your capacity to dodge attacks/spells of Shaper & Elder, which makes the fight even deadlier. And I don't think I should detail how the fight will end up if you are not tanky enought ...

So here, for Uber Elder, first, learn the fight. Secondly, improve your stats (>14kES, >600+net regen, 83 cold res, 90% phys dmg reduction, Multiple anti-freeze setup (or immunity to freeze), proper flask setup, etc.). Third, try the fight, but be prepair to fail it many times before you get used to it (if your stats are good enought for it). Fourth, succed, and enjoy your achievements.

Hope this will help you.
Last edited by LAGROSSESIMONE on Oct 30, 2018, 11:21:40 AM

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