[3.5] Lioneye's Glare Ele Conversion Raider (all content, videos up)

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And what are your thoughts about trickster for this build?

Looks pretty OP tbh

I'll start with this build in Beastiary, looks damn good. Do we still take Slaughter first or Chase will provide smoother leveling? Also, what quiver to use until Signal fire (guess it's gonna be pretty expensive at the beginning)?

i'll give a try as league starter for this build.

I'm a bit concerned about how i'll get all those expensive stuff like flasks / offhand / enchant helmet / etc...

How far can i go with low cost gear?

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

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And what are your thoughts about trickster for this build?

Looks pretty OP tbh

Are you thinking about changing to trickster with this revamp? I'd be pretty excited to see the changes you implement with it.

am thinking something like this for when Beast drops..

any thoughts/changes to the ascendancy's and the revamp they will get?

Cheers for the build.

hm for trickster that 40% more attack speed is only when u regen ES recently tho.. howd would u use that when boss fight? don't tell me vaal discipline

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

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why does it matter that you need to attack 10 times for 20%? He clearly showed that even with ONE ATTACK, aka the base 10%, it is faster?

no, it's actually slower if you pick Avatar of the chase

In his video his base without Asc was 212% MS. After he added base from taildwind he had 243%

When you pick Avatar of the chase you get +40% increased MS so 212%--> 252%

True that it is slower with Avatar of the chase but how can you even say that when its clearly inferior 4 points compereing to veil? You cant dismiss ailment immunity and all the other defensive perks eather.

And it's only 20% if you run onslaught from other sources like abys jewel or flask.

However I'm not saying that deadeye is better but faster it is. And you can run dark rays as deadeye as well.

Personaly if I would play this build I would make it as a raider or trickster.

In that note have you planned what this build would look like as a trickster?

Ascendant looks extremely strong too. Much slower without a doubt, but comes with zero reflect, double golems, triple herald possibility and extra penetration. Scion pathing also allows for more life nodes to be picked up (although the pathing is really awkward until you actually get ranger start pathing).

I really like the tailwind node and I want to try the revamped Deadeye, but at the same time I really like the idea of this build and want to run it for Bestiary. If you had to go Deadeye, what nodes would you take and what bow would you use instead (since far shot and hits evaded are redundant)? Death's Opus has low physical damage to start off. Don't really know since I haven't played an archer since EA with BM was super popular.

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And it's only 20% if you run onslaught from other sources like abys jewel or flask.

Which flask are you giving up, Crit, Atziri, ToH, Dying Sun or Move Speed flask (which will again only make you slower)? Flask spot is not something you can just "give up". Not to mention you won't be able to sustain it vs bosses. Abyss jewel that's like 4% chance to gain it on kill for couple of seconds and you're giving it up for a mod - that's basically useless.

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However I'm not saying that deadeye is better but faster it is.

If you compare 2 Ascendancies only you can see that in terms of move speed you get 10-20% more MS on Deadeye and ~56% increased MS on Raider. Deadeye is probably faster when you intentionally stack a ton of MS, so like 200%+ (think Queen of the forest builds) and Raider is probably faster when you stack less (sub 200%). But the difference is not overwhelming for the either side.

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If you had to go Deadeye, what nodes would you take and what bow would you use instead (since far shot and hits evaded are redundant)?

I would go Tailwind, Fast and Deadly and + 1arrow. If I had to pick a pdps bow I would still use Lioneye's because all the other uniques suck tbh. But I would probably just run a different build altogether, most likely Windripper.