[3.5] Lioneye's Glare Ele Conversion Raider (all content, videos up)

After seeing ur post at reddit, I decided on this build Jessica.

This will be my first bow build. So, for the movement skill what do we use? In my previous
characters I always used shield charge, leap slam, lightning warp, anything similar to these movement skills?


I look forward for the new chances on the build after patch notes.

Hello,

I really like the build so far, I am toying with it a bit in standard now to get a feel out of it for 3.2. I do not have the gear unfortunately, but I am at least testing how it works.
Being a not so experienced player (sounds better than noob), I have a few questions:
1.Is it viable for 3.2? It certainly looks so and I would like to play it. I do hope it will get a 3.2 update.
2.Should you go for shadow nodes first or down the tree around the duelist nodes when leveling?
3.Why point blank? - this is probably the most noob-ish question, but I do want to know.

Thank you for the awesome guide!

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1.Is it viable for 3.2? It certainly looks so and I would like to play it. I do hope it will get a 3.2 update.

I mean if anything they just really buffed Raider now with perm Onslaught and 25% chance to evade.

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3.Why point blank?

point blank is good vs bosses on barrage.

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So, for the movement skill what do we use?

Blink Arrow ;)

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Do you plan on updating the guide, once more infos on ascendancy changes and generel patch notes come out?

Yes!

Any opinion on the new Chase vs Veil for ascendancy? Would have to drop adrenaline for mapping for freeze immune (and still get shocked lul), but onslaught would speed you up more anyway.

I think I might give your build a try for a starter in 3.2 but i saw the new Deadeye rework and I just kinda like it, do you think it would still be viable with it (even if a bit les damage I think) considering the uniques used wouldn't change? I still lack some knowledge to guess such a thing^^.

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Llyiak wrote:

I think I might give your build a try for a starter in 3.2 but i saw the new Deadeye rework and I just kinda like it, do you think it would still be viable with it (even if a bit les damage I think) considering the uniques used wouldn't change? I still lack some knowledge to guess such a thing^^.

I don't like the rework. It again focuses on accuracy and far shot - 2 things you literally get for free just simply using Lioneye's Glare.

What I like is blink arrow cooldown reduced, that is an interesting way of dealing with a terrible move speed of Deadeye.

I think it will find a spot in those builds that stack evasion and accuracy. Raider and Pathfinder are still much better for ele builds.

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Any opinion on the new Chase vs Veil for ascendancy?

I'm going to go with Chase 25% more chance to evade attacks is no joke and onslaught vs bosses is very good.

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

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1.Is it viable for 3.2? It certainly looks so and I would like to play it. I do hope it will get a 3.2 update.

I mean if anything they just really buffed Raider now with perm Onslaught and 25% chance to evade

But isn't raider now by far the worst one to pick? Deadeye is so freaking insane and even trickster with insane amounts of attack speed and ofc the note everyone are flipping their desks for.

Tarke made good videos on both of these acendancy classes to explain the changes.

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

dealing with a terrible move speed of Deadeye.

please check the tarke's video about deadeye asap :D

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Sayonara wrote:

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

dealing with a terrible move speed of Deadeye.

please check the tarke's video about deadeye asap :D

Was just about to say the same, to me deadeye seems pretty sweet, even for those who would liker to go MF. Plus you have a lot of phys to convert to ele if you want so.

Anyway i'm gonna give Deadeye a shot using your build as a base. :)

Jessica, do you stream? I'd be interested in seeing how you progress your char in the beginning of a league since I've never played a bow build.

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please check the tarke's video about deadeye asap :D

I did it and he skipped one little bit: to get 20% tailwind you need to attack 10 times in 4 seconds. So you need to basically have 2.5 attacks every second to keep it up (you need to stand in 1 place and attack). When the playstle is basically 1-2 attacks and move to another screen you wouldn't be even able to sustain half of it durinig the 4 seconds. Not to mention that you're losing it in 4 seconds when you hit nothing. Unless of course you want to stop and spam a skill into thin air.

So no Deadeye is not "much better" when 2 of Deadeye nodes like far shot & double accuracy you can get for free just by using Lioneye's Glare.