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Mecielle wrote:
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ThePhildozer89 wrote:
I wanted to ask about the PoB pastebin.
I was thinking it was going to show more dps, even after changing config settings i'm only seeing it at 560k? Does this need to be updated or am I just setting up the config wrong?
You do realize that is per ball. And we have 12 balls each hit. And we hit 6 times each second. That is 72x560k Shaper DPS. AKA 40 million DPS against Shaper.
Of course that is theoretical, as not all balls are going to hit and we won't have charges and flasks up for the whole fight. I would assume in reality that pastebin reaches around 25m Shaper DPS.
But even like 10m is more than enough to melt Shaper into the next phase in the blink of an eye.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up. I wasn't sure if PoB would account for each ball or not. Knew something had to be wrong.
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Mecielle wrote:
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irampage7 wrote:
hey guys,
I have to questions
1.)when we use elemental focus on our 6 link gem slot, we can't make use of Innervate's shock setup (Innervate-herald of ice-onslaught-bloodrage) right?
because we cant use elemental ailments? shock considered to be elemental ailment right?
2.) why did OP put (1/0) orb of storms*. Should we just let it stay at level 1? or max it out?
any reply will be deeply appreciated. Thanks
1: Yea, if you use Ele Focus you should also switch to Wrath instead of two Heralds because of the no ailments thing.
2: He left it at level 1 because of the lower mana cost. We gain nothing by having it at a higher level because it is used for the single purpose of generation power charges. And a 1/0 does that as well as a 20/20
Oh thank you Lord, someone actually replied to me! thanks for clearing that up.
Follow up question: which is better in the long run wrath or double heralds?
Also, just to clarify 4R2B (Molten>Multi>Elemental damage for attacks>Ancestral>Added lightning>conc/AOE) for double heralds and 3R3B (Molten>Multi>Ancestral>Added lightning>conc/AOE>elemental focus) setup for wrath?
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Posted byirampage7#5156on Mar 18, 2018, 3:29:53 AM
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irampage7 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
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irampage7 wrote:
hey guys,
I have to questions
1.)when we use elemental focus on our 6 link gem slot, we can't make use of Innervate's shock setup (Innervate-herald of ice-onslaught-bloodrage) right?
because we cant use elemental ailments? shock considered to be elemental ailment right?
2.) why did OP put (1/0) orb of storms*. Should we just let it stay at level 1? or max it out?
any reply will be deeply appreciated. Thanks
1: Yea, if you use Ele Focus you should also switch to Wrath instead of two Heralds because of the no ailments thing.
2: He left it at level 1 because of the lower mana cost. We gain nothing by having it at a higher level because it is used for the single purpose of generation power charges. And a 1/0 does that as well as a 20/20
Oh thank you Lord, someone actually replied to me! thanks for clearing that up.
Follow up question: which is better in the long run wrath or double heralds?
Also, just to clarify 4R2B (Molten>Multi>Elemental damage for attacks>Ancestral>Added lightning>conc/AOE) for double heralds and 3R3B (Molten>Multi>Ancestral>Added lightning>conc/AOE>elemental focus) setup for wrath?
If you plan to do Guardians with this build it is worth it to go for 3r3b. It can cost a lot of chromatics, but still. And yea, I would say that if you go for 3r3b a change to Wrath is the logical step.
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 18, 2018, 3:34:44 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
If you plan to do Guardians with this build it is worth it to go for 3r3b. It can cost a lot of chromatics, but still. And yea, I would say that if you go for 3r3b a change to Wrath is the logical step.
would the double heralds do more damage? coz they give both lightning and cold? Sorry im still new to this game. Im still a noob when it comes to skill/gems interactions.
Last edited by irampage7#5156 on Mar 18, 2018, 4:24:28 AM
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Posted byirampage7#5156on Mar 18, 2018, 4:24:18 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I have been looking for corrupted one dont know why 4r2b is expensive now.
Could you elaborate a bit on the difference of 4r2b and 3r3b setup in terms of doing guardians? Because it is the kind of content that i will do and shaper/elder. Thanks
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Posted byM0nteCristo#4202on Mar 18, 2018, 4:46:31 AM
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Thanks for great build. Now lvl 92(switch to this on 91 from spark\bv).
Clear speed pretty good. Not best survivability at uberlab traps and some elder guardians.
Uber izaro easy, atziri easy, minotaur easy. Today will try red elder.
My gear:
PS: sorry for bad english
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Posted byadomaster#4340on Mar 18, 2018, 6:33:46 AM
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irampage7 wrote:
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Quasator wrote:
where do you get those good ele claws?
Crafting. Buy a base with 4 good rolls (including t1-t2 crit chance/attack speed) for 2-4 ex and slam it, brick (usually), resell for 1-3 ex, repeat. ~1/13 for nice claw.
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Posted byQuasator#0016on Mar 18, 2018, 7:58:57 AM
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irampage7 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
If you plan to do Guardians with this build it is worth it to go for 3r3b. It can cost a lot of chromatics, but still. And yea, I would say that if you go for 3r3b a change to Wrath is the logical step.
would the double heralds do more damage? coz they give both lightning and cold? Sorry im still new to this game. Im still a noob when it comes to skill/gems interactions.
No, Wrath adds a lot more damage. Only reason to use two Heralds is to get slightly faster clear speeds because of the shatters. I didn't even notice the difference.
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M0nteCristo wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I have been looking for corrupted one dont know why 4r2b is expensive now.
Could you elaborate a bit on the difference of 4r2b and 3r3b setup in terms of doing guardians? Because it is the kind of content that i will do and shaper/elder. Thanks
Well, with 3r3b you can run Added Lightning, Ele. Focus and Conc. Effect. Making your single target damage a lot higher than it would be with 4r2b.
My setups:
Clearing, including T15 bosses:
MS - Multistrike - Ancestral Call - Inc. AoE - Ele. Focus - Added Lightning
Guardians and up:
MS - Multistrike - Elemental Damage with Attacks - Conc. Effect - Ele. Focus - Added Lightning
Changing two gems looks like it could be annoying, but as the clearing setup is really more than enough damage to melt everything up to Guardians, you don't have to swap gems around too often.
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 18, 2018, 8:49:51 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
No, Wrath adds a lot more damage. Only reason to use two Heralds is to get slightly faster clear speeds because of the shatters. I didn't even notice the difference.
Now that you mentioned shatter, i have always been wondering...does elemental focus cancels the shatter effect of herald of ice? is shatter an elemental ailment?
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Posted byirampage7#5156on Mar 18, 2018, 11:10:10 AM
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irampage7 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
No, Wrath adds a lot more damage. Only reason to use two Heralds is to get slightly faster clear speeds because of the shatters. I didn't even notice the difference.
Now that you mentioned shatter, i have always been wondering...does elemental focus cancels the shatter effect of herald of ice? is shatter an elemental ailment?
You can only shatter frozen enemies, and Freeze is an elemental ailment. Same as the HoT aoe lightning effect, only procs on killing a shocked enemy.
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 18, 2018, 11:58:58 AM
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