[3.4] ELE CLAW INQUISITOR | Farm Shaper on 3Link! + UberElder, UberAtziri | very Budget friendly!

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Sanzaii wrote:

Does melee crit multi affect the ball damage or would you need global/elemental/weapon crit multi for it to work?

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That's what I'm getting at

i think no, cuz balls are projectiles

Adding deathless shaper at 85, without acrobatics or vaal pact. The only part that is weird is the between 2-3 when the mini boss shotguns.



I'm using the VP build without VP. I'm about to switch to the "non vp". I did have issues with the trash in Uber atziri, but I don't have phase acro, and I've since switched from herald of thunder to Arctic armor. About to start min-maxing.

Tooltip about 140k, still need gems to tick 20. Murderous jewels are bananas.

Excellent build i finish all the content and i will roll to another build (maybe flicker) so im selling my stuff if anyone is intereted:



If you are interested in something please whisp me ign:cientoveintinueve

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Huaojozu wrote:

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GornoDD wrote:

No, multistrike does not only increase your attack speed. It does incease you your attack speed by 93% MORE AND(!!!) makes your attack repeat another two times to a total of three attacks (Multistrike is OP btw). Read the text of the gem again.

Yes, it repeats two more times. But that's a DOWNSIDE. If you have an attack speed of 0.12s with Multistrike, that means you will attack ONCE every 0.12s. Multistrike makes it repeat two more times, so you will do three attacks every 0.36s.

Without Multistrike your attack speed is 0.24s so you attack once every 0.24s. This is why people feel Multistrike is clunky - it stops you in place for 0.36s compared to 0.24s without it.

In the end, since Multistrike has 100% more attack speed, you attack twice as fast. Each attack does 30% less, so 0.7*2 = 1.4 ~ 40% multiplier.

No, because with Molten Strike you get x 3 the amount of balls thus x 3 the amount of damage when they land. This is in addition to the faster attack speed for the single target damage.

With ancestral call and multistrike you get three balls per Ancestral Call = 9 x 3 with Multistrike = 27 per attack. So it is not about the damage from the single target, it is about the additional damage with the balls.

So yeah, Multistrike with Ancestral Call is OP.

Also:

@GornoDD Why was Onslaught removed from the guide? Is it not necessary now?

And additionally would you recommend ever taking the Gracefull Assault node and dropping Onslaught gem completely to replace with something else. If yes what gem would you use instead?

The reason I ask is because the FAQ still has info on Onslaught but the gem is not mentioned in the Gems and Link section, and you do not have a Chest Piece linked in the My Gear Section to see if you are using it or not.

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Slithid wrote:

Got a 6l Belly today, I remembered before trying to roll 3b/3r on it people had been having issues. Well one "At least 2 blue sockets" in and I get this lol:

I did manage to get it 3b/3r two attempts later but lol, 4 off colors in one try.

Probably going to go to 2b/4r eventually, when I'm better at the AC mechanic.

Cheers to your Belly. I just want to ask, what do you mean by AC Mechanic? Is there like a trick to it? And by AC you mean Ancestral Call Support or Ancestral Call? Coz I'm just wondering why having Ac Support better than having Ele Focus during single target.

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Pinakoorat wrote:

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Slithid wrote:

Got a 6l Belly today, I remembered before trying to roll 3b/3r on it people had been having issues. Well one "At least 2 blue sockets" in and I get this lol:

I did manage to get it 3b/3r two attempts later but lol, 4 off colors in one try.

Probably going to go to 2b/4r eventually, when I'm better at the AC mechanic.

Cheers to your Belly. I just want to ask, what do you mean by AC Mechanic? Is there like a trick to it? And by AC you mean Ancestral Call Support or Ancestral Call? Coz I'm just wondering why having Ac Support better than having Ele Focus during single target.

If you stand in just the right place using attack while standing your AC will proc on the boss landing your projectiles and the projectiles spawned from AC as well, including the single target damage from the AC melee attack proc.

So you do not attack the single target directly, you stand just off from them and shift (or whatever key-bind you have set up) attack.

Also Ancestral Call support is the only Ancestral Call, they are not two different things.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ancestral_Call_Support

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Pinakoorat wrote:

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Slithid wrote:

Got a 6l Belly today, I remembered before trying to roll 3b/3r on it people had been having issues. Well one "At least 2 blue sockets" in and I get this lol:

I did manage to get it 3b/3r two attempts later but lol, 4 off colors in one try.

Probably going to go to 2b/4r eventually, when I'm better at the AC mechanic.

Cheers to your Belly. I just want to ask, what do you mean by AC Mechanic? Is there like a trick to it? And by AC you mean Ancestral Call Support or Ancestral Call? Coz I'm just wondering why having Ac Support better than having Ele Focus during single target.

If you stand in just the right place using attack while standing your AC will proc on the boss, landing your original projectiles and the projectiles spawned from AC as well, including the single target damage from the AC melee attack proc.

So you do not attack the single target directly, you stand just off from them and shift (or whatever key-bind you have set up) attack.

@Mods. Delete this post please. It is a double post. Thanks.

My Belly won't go 2B4R for anything. Until I save up, I have 1B1G4R. Why not use Faster Attacks?

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HopeHD wrote:

Once again streaming my character that is running this build.

All gear min-maxed and running endgame Shaper easily.

Feel free to join and ask questions / see how the character works.

https://www.twitch.tv/TheHopeHD

good gear but hardly min maxed lol

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Bhaladas wrote:

No, because with Molten Strike you get x 3 the amount of balls thus x 3 the amount of damage when they land. This is in addition to the faster attack speed for the single target damage.

With ancestral call and multistrike you get three balls per Ancestral Call = 9 x 3 with Multistrike = 27 per attack. So it is not about the damage from the single target, it is about the additional damage with the balls.

Once again, this is not true. You do not get x3 amount of the balls (in the same amount of time). You get x3 amount of the balls in 150% of the time of your normal attack.

Without multistrike at 1 APS:
0s - hold attack
1s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 100 damage
2s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 100 damage
3s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 100 damage
Total: 300 damage

With multistrike at 2 APS (thanks to Multistrike's 100% MORE attack speed):
0s - hold attack
0.5s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
1.0s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
1.5s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
2.0s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
2.5s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
3.0s - attack finishes - get projectiles - each salvo does 70 damage
Total: 420 damage - 40% multiplier

You seem to be confusing what the "Skills repeat 2 additional times" line does. That line has NO EFFECT on your DPS, it doesn't magically add any attacks, it simply forces you to attack 3 times instead of just once. Each attack takes 50% less time but in total you stand in place for 150% of the time your normal attack would take.