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I am a casual player. Besides having little time, there are still several games that I like besides Poe, be it Arpg, MMO, FPS and so on. So I still have to "split" the time between these other games, which leaves me with even less time for Poe.
When "Poe's ok", for example at Ritual, where there was still a decent farm (and I'm not even talking about Valdo's, I'm talking about Harvest, which at the time had good crafts for sale), I dedicated much more time to it, he stopped playing other games to "invest" in Poe, because it was worth it; there were farms for noobs, so to speak; these were farms that anyone could farm, even with weaker builds (see Harvest example).
And that excited me to play Poe, the chance that, even as a casual player, I could progress in the game. Today the game is meme, you have to dedicate a lifetime to be able to do things, grow in the game and make all its content. I say this because you have to have a vast knowledge of the game, some very specific knowledge and, on top of that, dedicate yourself to farming, chasing items in this pig trade - which, by the way, is another very discouraging thing.
What I needed to spend 1 month to do, today I need to spend the entire league; that is, it is no longer worth it. I made - amazing - SIX characters in this league, to see if any compensated, of so many nerfs we had, and with NONE of them I was able to make tier 9+ maps, while in Ritual I had 3 characters that could.
The solution? It seems so obvious to me that I can't believe they haven't thought of it yet.
The biggest problem in the game is item optimization. Up until act 10, the vast majority of players skip quests that have items as rewards, because the items are pretty memes. The first step would be for GGG to give much better items, encouraging the player to do these quests. The second step would be to increase the game's difficulty gradually, with the greatest difficulty being found on tier 11+ maps. Then yes it should have an increased difficulty, and this difficulty should grow more significant as the map tiers increase.
And the drop? Well, this league is rubbish. How to make the drop good enough, without extrapolations? RGN is unfair in my view, since I've been playing poe since 2014 and I've never even seen a Mirror, for example. But if GGG left more farm-friendly forms, like the old Harvest (which I only used to sell crafts, because I don't have the time or patience to learn to craft), I'd still have some spirit to play.
And honestly? You guys ruined the game. Instead of doing another obvious thing, they did 100x worse. Why create new content, new bosses with different mechanics, when they can simply change the damage numbers of players and monsters?
It would be so much simpler (for us players, not for you, as we players already understand how the company works) if you made, for example, a new endgame boss that, in your arena, all auras had reduced effect. To nerf anything in the game is to show your laziness to do better and more powerful things - at least in this case it is.
I feel a huge lack of respect for myself and my money spent on this game. I play to feel strong, if I was supposed to feel weak, I just wouldn't go to the gym anymore.
Apparently, you missed some basic game-making lessons. I don't have much time to play anymore, I should feel satisfied with the game, not frustrated with it. Not going beyond tier 9 maps is exceptionally frustrating. But of course, you make the game for 3% of players, not the other 97%.

Thank you ggg for helping me get my life back.
6k hours in PoE is enough.

GJ GGG well done with reducing survivability and same time lowering dmg players deal. Real great job. HC experience on softcore is fucking great. I feel so fucking elitist dying to white mobs on tier 12 map. I 'm soo happy you won't let those pesky casuals to have a chance to reach endgame. I really believe that making game for 20 streamers and 2k nolifes is a good idea.

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kaktttusikaa3 wrote:

GJ GGG well done with reducing survivability and same time lowering dmg players deal. Real great job. HC experience on softcore is fucking great. I feel so fucking elitist dying to white mobs on tier 12 map. I 'm soo happy you won't let those pesky casuals to have a chance to reach endgame. I really believe that making game for 20 streamers and 2k nolifes is a good idea.

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Grinding in 3.15... It's looks like a cancer. You can't do anything without RNG drops. It's boring and annoying time, that's why people drop the game.

[Removed by Support] - What is the point on play a "new" league, if its mechanic is SOOO annoying, or drop or find its exclusive content its impossible (like Logbooks) ? Its so boring to farm like 20 maps to get a single Logbook... seems we are playing standard, without currencies and nerfed... Why GGG is so interested at destroy this game ? Wasnt enough that damn Ultimatum Master spawn rate as boss, and now we have this awful logbook drop rate (not even possible to find those sites, even worst to find bosses)... really... if this league not improve soon, will quit POE for good. Dont have like 12 hours a day to play it, nor have a legion o donators to boost my game like streamers-GGG-influencers. [Removed by Support]

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kaktttusikaa3 wrote:

GJ GGG well done with reducing survivability and same time lowering dmg players deal. Real great job. HC experience on softcore is fucking great. I feel so fucking elitist dying to white mobs on tier 12 map. I 'm soo happy you won't let those pesky casuals to have a chance to reach endgame. I really believe that making game for 20 streamers and 2k nolifes is a good idea.

Exactly... for sure GGG has been advised by streamers experience, whose gains 20EX in-game donations per day... For me, another CRAP league, after Ultimatum Trialmaster be so impossible to find... and now, to complete disaster, Logbooks are harder to find as exalts... so, end of POE is near to me. Not a single dime more on supports.

My impressions about the league: 1) We dont play a "fresh league", we playing standard, nerfed and without currency, because core league mechanics are logbooks, and those DONT drop, or do each 20 maps ... so, its better play old modes to reach high levels and just ignore league (so, whats the point on "new league" ?) ... 2) we stack a bunch of worthless new currency (since Rog and Gwennen in general dont offer powerful items or quality loot at maps), 3) GGG not even set a Logbook vendor to spent those new scraps, or a chance to find randomly Logbooks for sale on new NPCs ... 4) this new league is for people that can spent +12 hours/day playing, or streamers that receive 20ex donations from partners; seems casual players are not welcome anymore, cause its so annoynig spent 2 hours and not even find a Logbook... 5) frustrated again, after annoying RNG on find Trailmaster 3 months ago

Maybe interesting for somebody new ... but for the old gamers we have to pair in party to make endgame content. What is killing my joy:

- pings mountains
- disconnecting
- dissapearing portals after dissconnecting
- cannot join same instances for no reasons when or eaven without party
- Azurite Mine porting into-outo location not working correctly
- 20-30 seconds ports to or out of location
- ping in hideout 200 ?
- nerf dmg for more pushing buttons or make like we have to sinergize the skills together? So we do not piano flask but piano skills?
- one week farm league content Expedition casualy bring me ... 50 c... no ty i skip. Will buy fragments and do Elder all day long cos i earn there
- trading ... ... ... give us like some chest where i can put what i want to sell and let it buy for other trought game no in browser i have to find somebody than back to game than he sell it already or dont respond and 20x repeat
- trade bots... clever algorithm?
- another type of currency? are not you see how many scraps, shards, orbs,... we already have to colect?
- dont showing real DPS or Multiplyers (have to use PoB to find out what is my next upbrade) and i am not saying anything about the minions you never now what thay have crit, stats, speeds, etc.

DONT make another league just use advice from content creators and fun base merge them togehter in some cool way you know that (like items from expedition will autopicku the guy from expedition like nets on monsters is casting by npc) and fix issues what they are in the game already i would be happy soo much :)

Anyway thanks for cool game


Regards Fall

Well you've seen this a thousand times already this league, so I'm just going to add another: I QUIT. And god damn it feels good. No, I don't expect you to care about my leaving out of some self-centered wish to be anyone's center of Universe, I just hope the remaining 40-50k players in the game do the same in as fast as possible and at least the Alpha Testers and Streamers can play on their own, kinda battle-royale like. Experience taught us a huge chunk of those sticking with the game past first league impressions are done with the league mostly 1-1.5 months into it, imagine the numbers in a couple of weeks.
It's ironical how Expedition mainly talks about resurrecting dead people to uncover their treasures. Imagine if we could bring back people to the game by doing league mechanic :)

Mainly someone who spends A LOT of time in game, a lot more than some people trying to casually enjoy POE, but what finally drives me from the league (even though I generally play at least 2 months in) :

A) no fun to be had - you've managed to allienate so much of your player base that it's insane at this point
B) lack of proper response towards an extremely bad player retention league, on top of it being extremely unenjoyable
B.1) Lack of raw currency drops and extremely limited viability and availability of league mechanic is what turned people away from the game so fast
B.2) Your stubbornness with acknowledging real, IMMENSE feedback from your community, to which you were sworn to back in the days. That bond seems so broken right now
B.3) Going the politics route and employing streamers to make sure your message was heard (which is ironical, cause you didn't wanna hear your players' opinions) and then doing nothing about the current league because your business model revolves around turning a profit at league start and ...well, Expedition is dead
B.4) HAMMERING down on the god damn VISION that has allienated, enraged and frustrated so many people away from the game with the classic bait-and-switch POE that just changes perspectives over their own product 180 degrees in a matter of months. You've lost at least 100k people on league start in 6 months (check Ritual vs Expedition) because you've given players a kind of game and now you're trying to turn it into something completely different.

C) Employing streamers like Baeclast crew and now Zizaran and Mathil. I don't have anything against these guys personally, but the type of content they put up, time they spend in trade league and their vision of the game is NOT consistent with the reasons this game became so popular. None of them can relate to the zoom-zoom meta and while I applaud their professionalism and I trully respect their dedication to representing SC Trade players, they're not able to simply as they don't have the experience. It's like having an answering machine and asking it to realise you're in a mood. While I'm sure they have the best interests in pleasing the angry masses at the moment, they're just not able to reliantly and succesfully relate why such a big chunk of your current player base feels the way they do at the moment.
And then you're just ignoring people like PathofMatth, Cutedog, Grimro and hope it's ok? No, that's not gonna happen. Cause you won't trully touch bases with the core reason of what's causing this, all this dancing around the bush will have no real effect.

D) Build diversity? Sure. Build viability? HA! ( Thanks, Ziz )
It's not the fact that people can't play the game anymore following some obscure-depths-of-the-internet builds, it's the fact that those suck tremendously these days, based on the nerfs. Sure, people can league start whatever they want, but then it falls off before maps and what do you know? Poof goes your 40% leaguestarters.

E) Crafting. As non-deterministic as it can be. Probably gonna get worse. You don't realise how wrong you are about this, Chris. It's crafters that kept the game progression alive a lot of the leagues because the items that drop ( be it rare or uniques ) are completely useless.
And then you're nerfing crafting mechanics (aisling, ultimatum harvest?), replacing them with ROG?
The trickle down/up mechanism in an economy based game IS what made POE so special and you're just killing that with no second thought which just shows you're disconnected with how things simply work in SC Trade.

The changes you've made are 100% too drastic and you've ignored QOL and bugs for so long that it's all just too much for people to handle.
It's also truly amazing to me how you've done nothing REAL to 'fix' this league and you're just ok to let it die.
Peace out!