6-player party mapping gives 36 times the loot of solo play. Please nerf group farming rewards.

Loot should be completely individualized.

What you see drop should only be for you.
You should not be able to see what's dropping for other players.
Being in a group or not should not change the amount of loot you're getting.
The point of grouping should be wanted to play co op, nothing about loot.

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Hauran#5350 wrote:

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Direfell#7544 wrote:

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karsey#2995 wrote:

36% more loot than you

I'm not concerned about this issue tbh, but 36x is not 36% more, its 3,600%. so divided by 6 people its 6x or 600% more divines.

But also no source for this data so its all bunk.

It's ture 3600%
Here is the link to the test video from a Chinese streamer:https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sT546WEPH/

Question, are those streamers using our version of poe2 or their version? Their version is different and is on separate servers and doesn't interfere with our economy.

There are a lot videos at youtube about 500% rarity bots from eu/usa players.

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wv7F-_kriqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycD8HUUGSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWbp3zzNLmw


So x36 quantity of single player loot can be true. Or at least possible to get some div orbs or t4-t5 items every 1-3 minutes.

There's also confirmation from designers that IIR has diminishing returns that kick in severely over 100~150. Math I've seen shows that 500% IIR is actually closer to 180% IIR in reality. I'll try to find that reference if work lets me have more than two minutes to myself today lol

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K0lyan#1949 wrote:

There are a lot videos at youtube about 500% rarity bots from eu/usa players.

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wv7F-_kriqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycD8HUUGSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWbp3zzNLmw


So x36 quantity of single player loot can be true. Or at least possible to get some div orbs or t4-t5 items every 1-3 minutes.

Pretty interesting how these videos are absolutely nothing like what's happening currently in Temple. Almost like the real culprit of the economic impact is Temple more than party bonus or MF cullers.

This Rarity feature has existed since previous leagues. The Temple only made this promblem bigger. It's rooms gives increased Rarity and Effectiveness for monsters.

So, in addition to the problem rarity problem from rarity bots, we got bigger problem with the Temple's Rarity and Effectiveness was added. Because the bonuses are cumulativeю

I specifically used examples of rarity bots without a temple to compare loot. Everyone were running T16 maps during past leagues.

The videos you linked aren't showing 36x loot to me. Me and my friends running solo juiced maps were getting 1-3 divs every map, they'd have to be getting up to 18D on a map to match our better maps. How much did they get from those maps total?
Gonna see if I can pull a transcript and translation from the Chinese video.

It's like asking to delete healers from the game where healers exists, because healers makes the group stronger.

Ehh, I promised to not get engaged in these shitposts anymore...

Amen. Nerf group play yesterday.

It’s hilarious how much the exploiters try to lie and defend this with every ounce of their being.

And in the case of some YouTubers, having their community rally against this nerf.

This is one of the reasons so many exploits exist and it’s a breeding fest for rmt.

Hope it gets nerfed to oblivion and the exploiters can grind like the rest of the player base.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

There's also confirmation from designers that IIR has diminishing returns that kick in severely over 100~150. Math I've seen shows that 500% IIR is actually closer to 180% IIR in reality. I'll try to find that reference if work lets me have more than two minutes to myself today lol

diminishing returns only at character layer. Then multiply it by party rarity bonus. Then multiply it by map explicits. Then multiply it by quantity party bonus. Then multiply by map quantity explicits.
Here you go