POE2's Broken Team Looting: 46x Rewards, and GGG Risks Following Amazon Games' Fate

Do you have any proof of this beyond conceptual statements?

Because while I don't doubt that on some level there are people abusing automation (or group play? I've lost track of what you're mad about) I don't know how you're the only one who's been able to get a clear view into what this alleged multitude of people are doing along with the degree of the impact they've imposed onto your experience in the game.

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karsey#2995 wrote:

Do you have any proof of this beyond conceptual statements?

Because while I don't doubt that on some level there are people abusing automation (or group play? I've lost track of what you're mad about) I don't know how you're the only one who's been able to get a clear view into what this alleged multitude of people are doing along with the degree of the impact they've imposed onto your experience in the game.

Ahh, yes. The age old argument of, "If you don't have direct evidence, then the problem doesn't exist or isn't serious."

How about the dozens/hundreds of sites where you can buy thousands of divines within a day or two of a league starting? There's so much empirical evidence of the severity of this issue that it doesn't take a graduate degree to draw a few sound conclusions.

Don't be intentionally dense for the sake of argument. Is the OP over-reacting? Sure. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point.

You can never wake someone who is pretending to sleep. Team-up bonus should continue to be strengthened rather than weakened; perhaps this can wake them up.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

Claims 46x difference with absolutely no proof, just "trust me bro, everyone agrees." Invalidates your entire premise imo.

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The loot farming groups and RMT have completely distorted the in-game economy. We need to look at things from their perspective to realize exactly what we’ve lost.

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karsey#2995 wrote:

Do you have any proof of this beyond conceptual statements?

Because while I don't doubt that on some level there are people abusing automation (or group play? I've lost track of what you're mad about) I don't know how you're the only one who's been able to get a clear view into what this alleged multitude of people are doing along with the degree of the impact they've imposed onto your experience in the game.

It's all on the wiki — party rarity, videos of group MF runs, everything.
But hey, if you'd rather stay in denial, go ahead. I'm done arguing with someone who just wants to pick a fight.

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I didn't make an argument.

I asked for proof, displayed confusion about what point was even trying to be made, and wondered how they're absolutely certain about all the things they mentioned as well as it's impact to their own experience.

It's not unwarranted to be skeptical or question claims on a forum where people can just come on and say whatever they want before making "logical conclusions" off of baseless conjecture.

If anyone has actual information that'd be great, I'd love to "wake up" and "stop pretending to sleep" lmao

I'm just the regular kind of dense, there's nothing intentional about it.

everyone can make a shitload of divs etc and mess around diff builds
crying about the economy just tells me your to lazy to activly participate.
if you wanna be starved for resources play poe1

there was always a way to make alot of currency for elite players now its accessible to everyone and yall cry.

the only thing thats going to kill this game is its community

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karsey#2995 wrote:

Do you have any proof of this beyond conceptual statements?

Because while I don't doubt that on some level there are people abusing automation (or group play? I've lost track of what you're mad about) I don't know how you're the only one who's been able to get a clear view into what this alleged multitude of people are doing along with the degree of the impact they've imposed onto your experience in the game.

You can watch one million proof live on website called twitch

3 A4 pages of text, but actually showing whre he gets his numbers from? nope no way, just trust him, the veterans(of what?) agree. Also, who cares what others gain? the game is currently easy as hell, crafting is cheap, hell farming for crafting solo is possible. try that in poe1 lol.

and no, they won't have any problem with financing themselves after the game goes f2p. poe1 playerbase is smaller but the money flows, i see no different fate for poe2.

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InvRnd#4436 wrote:

You can watch one million proof live on website called twitch

So twich tracks dropped loot from all sessions and posts statistics of it somewhere? Please show that link.

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

So twich tracks dropped loot from all sessions and posts statistics of it somewhere? Please show that link.

It doesn't need to track stats when an average brain can draw an educated conclusion based on the availability of purchasable currency on farming websites within hours of a new season.