Just a reminder, please remove the team loot bonus in version 0.5.

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AbyssianOne#1625 wrote:

What a weird complaint. You realize the team loot bonus doesn't even add up to 100% what you'd get solo per person, right?

If you form a team normally, the spoils you get are indeed not high. But if I open six accounts by myself and one of them is filled with drop masters with a rarity of 600, how much do you think my earnings will be?

Unleash solo trading, play solo for solo players, and play in a team for those who prefer team play. Everyone has a bright future

+1

Unleash solo trading, play solo for solo players, and play in a team for those who prefer team play. Everyone has a bright future +111111111

I think party play shouldnt increase rarity at all, just quantity of items found. Also not +100% per extra player since party play comes with the benefit you being able to farm "good maps" more consistently. Im not 100% sure what the current implementation is, because everything you find is just (citing the wiki here):

+11% currency/player
+11% items/player
+0% rarity/player

So in total 22% more currency and 11% more other items... Seems fair to me... But then just below that it says:

~100% more currency drops per party member.
~100% more ring/amulet drops per party member.
~28% more item drops in total per party member, with skewed distributions of item classes towards more generically useful item types.

Which kinda contradicts the table given before and seems overturned... But still no rarity there, which is good since rarity could shift lower value currency to higher values.

src https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Partying

If you are not going to significantly reduce the benefits of party play, please create a solo-only trading league with a separate economy. Party play and solo play should have non-interconnected trading markets — one for parties, one for solo players. I'm a solo player who works during the day, has no friends to play this game with, and has never joined a party. Party players will always get more gear and currency than me. In a solo league, even though a gap between casual players like me and hardcore veterans will still exist, that gap is far smaller than on servers that allow party play. This would also make me genuinely respect hardcore players' skill, and I would proactively learn their builds and strategies

This game needs to balance three aspects: defense, attack, and drop. There are only so many attributes for a single person. However, with the presence of a light ring master, teaming up allows individuals to focus on only one aspect. The difficulty can be imagined.
This is unfair. Teaming up allows for earlier access to higher levels of difficulty. More drops.

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Darosius#3984 wrote:

declined

thread can be closed.

team play is fun.
dont nerf fun.

yep, it's hufe rmt fun for rmt players to grind with huge party bonuses, buying fastly and making trade dominance with fastest and cheaper for them t0/mirror gear investments, faster crafting 10+ trading bots accounts, etc.

Please ggg, don't stop this, make rmt players feel even better, and normal players sucking deeply ¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Bring me memories, when for over 7+years poe1 was it, and 100% of publics in my country were full of memes, rotas invitings, etc to rmt in party, and ggg listened nothing but a players to nerf it to make cry one dreadlocks streamer to leave league for 1 week

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jakety#4653 wrote:

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dmb666#1882 wrote:

Just make personal loot already like in Diablo games. Everyone's loot can be seen and picked up only by himself. And only he's rarity from gear works.

+1

True..

Leeching is a big issue that inflantes market.

Poor stick as a leech
rich person get more rich run by run

it floods end-game with many poor players who break leveling curve with no power to play end-game for it's own level



it breaks GGG data charts so ggg takes broken/fake conclusions from fake data. As leeching causing many issues across what is seen clearly