Just a reminder, please remove the team loot bonus in version 0.5.

我是一个中国区玩家，中国区服务器的交易市场已经被组队多开机器人玩家搞的几乎崩溃，物价飞升，普通玩家（如果不rmt）几乎没有任何游戏乐趣！你们难道想让组队多开玩家毁了这个游戏么？
在这里我提醒ggg：
1、那些在回复中阻止移除团队战利品加成的大多数都是多开机器人玩家，就是他们破坏了游戏平衡。
2、那些多开机器人玩家几乎不会购买任何商城中的金币皮肤道具，他们对游戏的贡献为负，他们只会扰乱市场。
3、这个问题必须尽快得到解决（移除团队战利品加成）。否则1.0之后将不需要购买测试资格，到那时组队多开机器人将毁掉这个游戏，毫无疑问。

我会把这段文字由谷歌翻译为英文，希望你们能够理解。

As a player on the Chinese server, I’m utterly frustrated that the in-game trade market here has practically collapsed due to rampant multi-account bot teams. Skyrocketing prices have left regular players with zero fun if they refuse real-money trading. Are you really going to let multi-account bot players ruin this game?
I sincerely warn GGG:
Most players speaking out against removing party loot bonuses are actually multi-account bot users, who are the very ones breaking game balance.
These bot players barely spend any money on in-game skins, gold or official store items. They contribute nothing positive to the game, and only disrupt the entire in-game economy.
This issue needs an urgent fix by removing party loot bonuses. Otherwise, once version 1.0 launches with no early access purchase required, massive multi-account bot groups will flood in and completely destroy the game without a doubt.

Please, do not touch the party play mechanics. I have absolutely ZERO interest in running those juiced Abyss tablets. Abyss tablets should obviously remain party-player exclusive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAz4-fl_KvI

Again touching party play bonus will not in any way change the fact that you are so far behind the economy compared to people with way more time and efficiency than you.

It should be nerfed hard if only one person is doing the damage. Aura/curse/warcry players should have to be very close vicinity for any bonus to count.

I want to see the groups where people post "Free xp/gold leech. Do not attack or loot" gone. You should never ever be rewarded for doing nothing. I don't mind the group bonuses for groups where people are actively playing.

Party abusers ruining ingame economy in both games.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

Again touching party play bonus will not in any way change the fact that you are so far behind the economy compared to people with way more time and efficiency than you.

What kind of weird logic is that? It doesn't matter that the average dad gamer can't catch up to the profit of someone playing more

By that logic nothing needs to be balanced or nerfed because some people play 20 hours a day and the dad gamer can't catch up anyway, playing coc comet or not

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

Again touching party play bonus will not in any way change the fact that you are so far behind the economy compared to people with way more time and efficiency than you.

this is the same as saying, dont eat healthy you will die anyway

I don't see it like the eat healthy comment at all. If I was going to relate my position to that metaphor it would be something like "Switching from ice cream to low fat ice cream as your staple diet isn't going to fix your bad diet." (Damnit, now I want ice cream.)

You guys are seeing a problem: the economy is broken. OK fine, not arguing that right now, especially in 0.4.

So you're making suggestions based on that problem. My point is that removing party play bonus does not do anything toward solving that problem. Solo Temple snake runners are still going to be so far ahead that the economy would be functionally broken.

You could take away literally every source of loot bonuses from every layer in the game, and the economy would still be broken by the literal army of no-lifers between streamers, degens like me, and RMT farms. So is the goal actually to fix the economy, or is it just to punish people for wanting to play together? Imo this suggestion hurts the casual play player waaaay more than it would hurt the professional farmers.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

I don't see it like the eat healthy comment at all. If I was going to relate my position to that metaphor it would be something like "Switching from ice cream to low fat ice cream as your staple diet isn't going to fix your bad diet." (Damnit, now I want ice cream.)

You guys are seeing a problem: the economy is broken. OK fine, not arguing that right now, especially in 0.4.

So you're making suggestions based on that problem. My point is that removing party play bonus does not do anything toward solving that problem. Solo Temple snake runners are still going to be so far ahead that the economy would be functionally broken.

You could take away literally every source of loot bonuses from every layer in the game, and the economy would still be broken by the literal army of no-lifers between streamers, degens like me, and RMT farms. So is the goal actually to fix the economy, or is it just to punish people for wanting to play together? Imo this suggestion hurts the casual play player waaaay more than it would hurt the professional farmers.

Its easy to argue with.
If something is broken and yelds so much loot(temple) then using party play makes the problem bigger 10x and yet you say it does not change anything you are biased cause you probably abuse party play and thats all

No I solo grind, because when I've tried full stack grinding I make significantly less currency. Same reason very few streamers ever party, and the ones that do have shown the math that they could have made more currency if they just went solo.

Multiboxing obviously a problem, but already against ToS and people get banned for it. Parties with 5 leechers might be a topic worth some consideration here, but everything I've seen so far that is an exception that's arisen because Temple is broken.

I'm confused how you highlight the problem itself then blame something else? Temple is beyond broken, fix that. I don't understand why removing the party bonus, which is already worse farm for me, would be the answer to Tenple being broken.