I quit. Take out Trial of the Sekhemas.

To the people who tried to be constructive, thanks. I know you can do the Trial of Chaos for all six of the final points. The difficulty jump for the third set is pretty really big though (lvl 75+, 10 rooms) and I'm not here for that either.

I have beaten the 3 floor Trial of the Sekhemas btw, people want to act like the two back to back losses were the only times I've actually done it. Definitely have more than two losses also. I just don't like it. It's tedious. It takes a long time. The RNG compounds too much with 24 rooms. You can be railroaded into debuffs that dramatically weaken you. It's a lot harder for some builds than others. The challenges themselves aren't fun to play. The scorpion burrows into the ground for like 75% of the encounter. I could go on, but I think I've made my case.

Like the Trial of the Sekhemas? By all means say so. Your money is as green as mine and your opinion matters to GGG as much as mine does. But even if 1000 people come in here and tell me it's great I'm still not gonna be playing it. Glad you're having fun though.

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HairyCodeGorilla#6621 wrote:

I just don't like it.

Thats why there is chaos trial and soon trial of the ancestors. You not like, you not go.

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HairyCodeGorilla#6621 wrote:

The RNG compounds too much with 24 rooms.

With relics and smart choices its not really rng. I always end up with the good boons and whatever curse I dont care at all.

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HairyCodeGorilla#6621 wrote:

You a GGG dev? If so point taken. If not I don't care a single tiny bit about your opinion. That goes for everyone else too btw.

I would say that it's pretty provable you do care. You wouldn't post, much less reply, if you didn't.

I think it's pretty clear you won't need to to Trial 2 forever, as it's likely going to be Sekhema, Chaos, Ancestor, then pick one and go further for Ascendancy 4.

I posted here because GGG monitors these boards. I don't care if you like the Trial of the Sekhemas or not, doesn't move the needle for me at all. Can't help but notice nobody said they liked it though. That's interesting.

So I say I like it - it provides me nice earnings and valuable loot. And after deeper understanding mechanics and dangers of the trials I can do such runs:
Temporalis run. Though it was in previous league.
1HP training run. Picked that curse just before boss of 1st floor.

Maybe you should read up what a forum is... if you want to talk to the devs there is an e-mail.

If you dont care what others have to say in a FORUM, maybe you are in the wrong place.

The people coming in here saying they can build a character that does perfect carries for 4-floor sekhemas flawless every time are missing the point.

It's well known that you can build a character to do Sekhemas effortlessly.

This post is about doing it on an incomplete character, probably at mid-level on any build that needs a 3rd ascendancy point, where they've probably only ever done one run before at level 22, and a trial of chaos at 38.

They don't have a stock pile of relics. They don't have a dedicated Sekhema farmer char. They have a homebrewed incomplete WiP level 55-65 whatever build and then they open up the trial and get path-forced into choosing whether they want to get slapped in the nuts or kicked in the face as the monsters get more damage, more life, and more speed, and it culminates into them limping into what could be described as a 10-minute fight of attrition against a rabid scorpion in a tub of molasses. And if it doesn't go the right way, it feels pretty bad and unfun and discouraging because when the game just gives you the middle finger like that, it doesn't exactly inspire the desire to try again. This person is trying to tell us exactly this.

I say this as someone who hasn't failed a Sekhemas run since 0.3 in a similar scenario as I described above and has done Sekhemas to ascend all my characters since - the shitty forced/bully outcome might not be common, but it does happen.

Of course you can just not do the trial until you're level 90+ with awesome gear and be fine. You can roll all the content in the game like that. That's not the point.

The point is that when it does roll that "fuck you" forced-affliction pathing route and you're just trying to inch out an incremental upgrade on your character, it is unfun and discouraging if it becomes the defining reason for failing the run.

Hearing that someone else can do all 4 floors flawless on their 1000 div whatever build doesn't change anything about that situation.

I do it with lvl 22-60 without problem on leveling chars on every league start... you just dont want to learn sekhema. Thats ok. There are other mechanics

But if you are not willing to learn it, then maybe stop complaining.

We are here giving you tips and solutions but you stay stubborn because you dont want solutions... you want to whine. Thats a huge difference.

If we delete everything that is percepted as "difficult" or "unfun" aka dont want to learn we would be left with WASD.

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karsey#2995 wrote:

The people coming in here saying they can build a character that does perfect carries for 4-floor sekhemas flawless every time are missing the point.

It's well known that you can build a character to do Sekhemas effortlessly.

This post is about doing it on an incomplete character, probably at mid-level on any build that needs a 3rd ascendancy point, where they've probably only ever done one run before at level 22, and a trial of chaos at 38.
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I like how you've gone and applied this amount of reason to what is in fact a temper tantrum whine post with no substance in it whatsoever.

Everybody who's played this game had to do 3-4 floor sanctum with no relics and no clue what was going on at some point. Guess what? We did it a few more times, gained some knowledge and/or relics and eventually overcame it.

Sekhema is a basic competency check, one of the very few still left; I have no patience for individuals asking for handouts without putting in even the minimum amount of effort into learning the mechanic first, and neither should you, or anybody else who doesn't want this game to be dumbed down even further.

Just a skill issue. Trial isn't hard, but shouldn't be free and you just given the points. If you can't complete the mode it's because you need to practice them more. After time they aren't hard and easier than PoE1 trials.

They addressed this in past interviews and even said themselves people need to Get Gud. Guess if you're going to quit because of it the mode is working as intended though, which is good news for those of us sticking around, as the majority seem to enjoy them now.