New Chase Belt FYI

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A gloom shrine alone is better than a MB, it is very close to an autobomber item.


Not even close.
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A gloom shrine alone is better than a MB.

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ok ok, i fixed my post ;P
Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Mar 4, 2026, 3:25:54 PM
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A gloom shrine alone is better than a MB.

ok ok, i fixed my post ;P


I'm not sure why you think that 40% chance to explode as Chaos and 10% of non-Chaos as extra Chaos is in any shape or form better than a Mageblood. I don't agree, at all.
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[0.4] Caltrops Build: https://youtu.be/TlKk95y57hk
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It's 70% chance to explode, because of The Gull, but yeah i mean it is insanely strong but it comes down to preference and if you want to be as powerful as possible vs bosses where this kind of shennanigans are not useful.

A mb can deliver better stats but it can't deliver running around and blowing everything up with a button press here and there.

maybe it's just cooler but not technically better hehe, i don't really care. It's a new item and i am hyped ;)
Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Mar 4, 2026, 4:14:53 PM
We had this discussion in half a million threads when MB got announced; what is better, HH or MB? It turned out the HH-defenders was wrong in 9/10 situations.

I think it's clear as day that several versions of the new belt is better than MB - in a lot of situations. Resistance shrine is almost at par with a 4-res flask setup, while surpassing it with The Gull, while you ALSO get an offensive shrine. The Diamond shrine opens up SO many builds due "always crit". Crit multi is possible to get elsewhere than crit nodes on the tree.

Then comes acceleration/echo... Who knows how they'll "balance" that one.
But yeah, MB will still be better - and more customizable - in some situations.
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Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Mar 4, 2026, 4:15:47 PM
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Hornsent#1110 wrote:
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this belt will cost ALOT more than mageblood if good rolled its been confirmed it can roll everything but divine shrine so even echoing it will literally cost multiple mirrors they said its giga rare belt so i assume its 1% or less chance to drop from the boss and this belt will be always used together with the ring ascendy


I don't think it will be multiple mirrors.
I think it will be 100d maybe except for echoing.
Since it's league item it will be I guess affordable.

And it's not that better than mageblood.

Silver FLask = 40% ms, aspd, cspd
Quicksilver Flask = another 100% ms
Accel Shrine = 50% ms, aspd, cspd

So for uber speed it's still mageblood (third ring sure, but rings do not have ms)

Def shrines, what are these? Resistances? Comparable to the flask.
40% life from massive I guess is good, but not that OP (it's just belly of the beast body at the cost of 4 flasks)

And you lose def suffixes like reduced curse effect/shock.

you are very wrong this belt is much stronger than mageblood becuz it can be combined with the extra ascendy ring and we got new catalysts wich givs buff to all suffix or preffix so massive buff to helical rings and youc an get 150% shrine effect on you with blunder/gull but i imagine most people would use gull for example resistance shrine would give you 15% to all max resistances including chaos so you can get 90 elem and 90 chaos res meanwhile with mageblood you could only get +9 max elem res and no chaos res and that requires 3 elem flasks so yeah a good rolled shrine belt will cost multiple mirrors if the belt drop chance is 1% or less or even 2%
Last edited by NukeFonKillazz#4119 on Mar 4, 2026, 4:33:55 PM
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the belt slot is simply far too valuable, not to mention the restriction of no flasks.


Not quite.

All builds fall into one of a few categories for the belt slot. You either run a rare belt that’s basically just a stat stick, a build enabling unique that’s completely non-negotiable, or if you’re fancy you rock around with a MB or HH.

In any situation where your belt isn’t build enabling and is just providing generic stats, you can absolutely replace it with the new belt and come out ahead with meaningful benefits over a rare, and in some setups even compete with Mageblood or Headhunter.

The no flasks downside also isn’t a big problem. The belt provides good power on it's own. If you pair it with Nameless Bloodline and take the utility flasks can’t be used path for another ring slot, you’re effectively double dipping on the downside without actually paying an additional cost. Your belt already disables flasks, so the ring slot comes with no real drawback.

At that point you’re gaining permanent shrine buffs and an extra ring slot at the cost of no flasks, which is a huge gain in power.
Non mb flasks are generally pretty mediocre in terms of raw power, so trading them away really isn’t a big loss as you only gain power, on par with a defensive mb setup. Depending on your build, you can even run a tincture since those don’t count as flasks.

Of course, this is the kind of interaction newer players tend to overlook. It’s easy to read no flasks and immediately write it off without thinking through how mechanics actually stack together.
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Pashid#4643 wrote:
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the belt slot is simply far too valuable, not to mention the restriction of no flasks.


Not quite.

All builds fall into one of a few categories for the belt slot. You either run a rare belt that’s basically just a stat stick, a build enabling unique that’s completely non-negotiable, or if you’re fancy you rock around with a MB or HH.

In any situation where your belt isn’t build enabling and is just providing generic stats, you can absolutely replace it with the new belt and come out ahead with meaningful benefits over a rare, and in some setups even compete with Mageblood or Headhunter.

The no flasks downside also isn’t a big problem. The belt provides good power on it's own. If you pair it with Nameless Bloodline and take the utility flasks can’t be used path for another ring slot, you’re effectively double dipping on the downside without actually paying an additional cost. Your belt already disables flasks, so the ring slot comes with no real drawback.

At that point you’re gaining permanent shrine buffs and an extra ring slot at the cost of no flasks, which is a huge gain in power.
Non mb flasks are generally pretty mediocre in terms of raw power, so trading them away really isn’t a big loss as you only gain power, on par with a defensive mb setup. Depending on your build, you can even run a tincture since those don’t count as flasks.

Of course, this is the kind of interaction newer players tend to overlook. It’s easy to read no flasks and immediately write it off without thinking through how mechanics actually stack together.



i dont think these people realize that every person whos gonna use this shrine belt will lso always use +1 ring ascendy becuz that ascendy have also no flask downside for having +1 ring so no reason to not take it not to mention you can still use instant flasks and 1 tincture flask or 2 if you are warden and the 2 shrine effects gives you more bonuses than 5 flasks anyway
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i dont think these people realize that every person whos gonna use this shrine belt will lso always use +1 ring ascendy becuz that ascendy have also no flask downside for having +1 ring so no reason to not take it


no utility flasks vs no flasks

That leaves you with only instant flasks. This belt will see use in Cluster Jewel builds and some more niche interactions, but not as generic of a use as Mageblood.

The Nameless Bloodline is good on its own, not made more attractive because of this belt. And you won't necessarily want to use it just because of this belt.

Fact is, outside of the 2 clearly busted variations, there are powerful ones and some that are mostly pointless in your average build. It's a very strong belt, and completely OP if Acceleration and Echoing can roll on it as is in their current state, which I doubt will be the case, but other than that it's just "okay".

What I'm more worried about is that it's gonna be allowed to stack with the shrine specific items. There clearly needs to be a balance pass. If it stays as is with the shrines being the way they are, it's clearly busted af, but I have my doubts it will. I just refuse to believe GGG didn't think of that. If it goes live as is, disregard what I said.
[3.28] Poor Man's Ward Loop: https://youtu.be/-tBxtkoQSiw
[3.27] Poor Man's Ward Loop: https://youtu.be/p5NA_Rf2TJU
[0.4] Pyro Ward: https://youtu.be/E-8P4XfDHJw
[0.4] Caltrops Build: https://youtu.be/TlKk95y57hk
[0.4] Candle Runner: https://youtu.be/h0F-0EgS5J8
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What I'm more worried about is that it's gonna be allowed to stack with the shrine specific items. There clearly needs to be a balance pass. If it stays as is with the shrines being the way they are, it's clearly busted af, but I have my doubts it will. I just refuse to believe GGG didn't think of that. If it goes live as is, disregard what I said.


They did think of that. Andrew said in the recent interview that everybody is probably gonna use The Gull with this belt, but he was not sure if one would use Blunderbore on top of that ;P
Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Mar 4, 2026, 5:34:01 PM

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