[Feedback] All Roads Lead to Crit
" What are you talking about, the proof is readily available? It's absolutely clear from the data, Blood Mage continues to dominate and probably needs to be toned down in Patch 0.5. https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on Mar 2, 2026, 11:10:29 AM
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" First post is about critical strike, more than 1 player linked their build to show it's not all about crit but obviously the show must go on.... " ...so it's no longer about critical strike but it's about bloodmage now. cmon :D |
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" I thought you were referring to the Blood Mage in the recent post. Anyways, there are a few builds that do not rely on crit, but MOST of them do. That's the point... CoC builds are just atrocious. Yes, I'll admit, the title might be a little exaggeration or clickbait. Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on Mar 2, 2026, 1:06:11 PM
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I disagree. Critical strike is not generally good. For some builds it's great. Those builds usually need very expensive gear but scale very well and are fun. But prior to the expensive gear, they generally are mid to outright sucking.
In other words, Crit is only good in a trade league, with a handful of skills. I've experimented with crit, on a bunch of different builds and it's ONLY good with blood mage and oracle. That's the entire point of those asencancies. I would hope the thing they are good at, is good and fun to play. Try playing crit on any class outside of blood mage and oracle. I think you'll find it's not all that powerful. |
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" That's is false. Two ascendancies, that have powerful crit passives, are the ones primarily using cast on critical. HC Trade: https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhc?allskills=Cast+on+Critical Blood mage, varstha top two SC Trade: https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhc?allskills=Cast+on+Critical Blood mage, and oracle. SC SSF https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalssf?allskills=Cast+on+Critical Oracle, Blood mage HC SSF https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhcssf/?allskills=Cast+on+Critical Oracle, Varshta Varshta doesn't care about crit, but crit is basically a stat for spells (I'm not aware of any good attack build that uses crit). Varshta has great defenses for casters and it's new. I honestly think Cast on Critical is bad, but "choir of the storm" and "Doedre's Undoing" are great. The majority of damage in COC builds comes from something that isn't CoC. Players just take COC because it free damag TLDR: Crit is fine (probably to weak actually). "Choir of the storm" and "Doedre's Undoing" are the things that are powerful and the current meta right now. |
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" For real?... In my experience you can wipe the single player game with pretty much any ascendency using any melee or projectile skill built around critical hits. Would be curious to know what your definition of 'not that powerful' is. Hope it isn't anything that can't one shot everything in a full party... Take just a few minutes looking at POE ninja, sort by classes and/or skills then look at the passive heatmap. It's a great and interesting tool to mess around with, and it'll show you how heavily overrepresented crit builds are. |
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" Yeah. Next post, I give links. Two Ascendancy that have strong crit passives are what is represented. With Varstha being a third friendly Ascendancy that show up in HC, because it has a very strong defense and can use foci. Crit is bad. However, Choir of the storm and Doedre's Undoing are very good. Those are the parts that make "Crit" seem op. Without them, crit sucks. |
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" Exactly, people just want to ignore the hard data. " Nonsense. Anyone saying "crit is bad" is just a troll. Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on Mar 3, 2026, 10:43:00 AM
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" If you just want to be salty that's your choice. "Cast on Crit" and crit builds are not good general purpose ways to develop characters. 1) Attacks take their critical strikes from the weapon. It's possible but difficult to get high critical strike on attacks. Also it's usually isolated to a a few bases. So trying to build crit with attacks limits your weapon selection. 2) I'm not aware of any payoff for high critical strike on weapons outside of "cast on critical". "Cast on critical" does not proc nearly enough for it to be a strong payoff. Furthermore you need Int, so that makes using Cast on Critical hard for builds that don't focus on Int. 3) Frost spells do have high crit chance, and blood mage gives all spells a high base crit chance. To me this suggest spells are better for critical strike builds (so anything not a spell doesn't care). It also suggest that blood mage is specifically geared to take advantage of critical strike. Build maces, spears, bows or crossbows for crit with only rares and no legacy support gems. This will give you a good sense on how weak crit is. Or look on Poe ninja SC SSF players level 80+ https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalssf?allskills=Cast+on+Critical&min-level=80 It's used by 3 classes and almost absent else where. If it was generally good, then it would be used by everyone. |
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" It's like this guy doesn't even know Garukhan's exists or how it works... |
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