Revert life penalty on Giant's Blood

"

Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

-1

Needs a downside for the massive damage you are gaining.

I agree but not reduced health. Something like less damage or less attack speed would be better.

Attack speed is something you already give up going 2h. So even more wouldnt really make sense.

Damage is the whole idea of having a 2h so having less damage wouldnt make much sense either.


Has to be defense, and losing some life I think is acceptable for the upside of oneshotting everything.

The ascendancy for staves and foci seem to reinforce this as well. And thats an ascendancy node, not a keystone.

"

avastcosmicarena#5899 wrote:

It's generally a pretty good indicator of what the majority of the playerbase view as good and not good.

Its not though.


Poe.ninja shows you one thing and one thing only.

Use rate.

Thousands of examples contradict "good and not good"; brass dome is just one of those examples.

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

-1

Needs a downside for the massive damage you are gaining.

In comparing of what? 115KK comet bloodmage doesn't use maces.
1KKK burst ball lightning\flame wall ritualist doesn't use maces.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/bannerboy14-5454/Yujji?i=13&search=sort%3Ddps

This guy uses maces. And he has mirror-tier gear, but only 2100 HP, 12000 armor and not even capped chaos res. Oneshot or be oneshotted. He invested everything in damage and is still worse than bloodmage. I even dont compare defence. It's negligible.

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Has to be defense, and losing some life I think is acceptable for the upside of oneshotting everything.

You are definitely not oneshotting everything with Giant's Blood lol.

"

FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

-1

Needs a downside for the massive damage you are gaining.

In comparing of what? 115KK comet bloodmage doesn't use maces.
1KKK burst ball lightning\flame wall ritualist doesn't use maces.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/bannerboy14-5454/Yujji?i=13&search=sort%3Ddps

This guy uses maces. And he has mirror-tier gear, but only 2100 HP, 12000 armor and not even capped chaos res. Oneshot or be oneshotted. He invested everything in damage and is still worse than bloodmage. I even dont compare defence. It's negligible.

Whats your point?

You linked someone dual wiedling 2h maces that invested fully into damage.

"

Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Has to be defense, and losing some life I think is acceptable for the upside of oneshotting everything.

You are definitely not oneshotting everything with Giant's Blood lol.

You do though. You throw on giants blood, 2h hammer of the gods/bleed or ignite. Pick one.

Aftershock.

Nothing survives in the game.


This is why the node was nerfed in the first place. And why bosses now have an anti burst mechanic for people saving glory for boss fights.

Warriors should get some love (or probably sparks should have some hate), but not via making a choice without a choice. Make a maces better as better weapon itself, without completely destroying its own subclass.

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

"

Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Has to be defense, and losing some life I think is acceptable for the upside of oneshotting everything.

You are definitely not oneshotting everything with Giant's Blood lol.

You do though. You throw on giants blood, 2h hammer of the gods/bleed or ignite. Pick one.

Aftershock.

Nothing survives in the game.


This is why the node was nerfed in the first place. And why bosses now have an anti burst mechanic for people saving glory for boss fights.

Endgame Geonor with 150 del, union of souls and 2 azmeri wisps. Try it.

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

"

FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

"

Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

-1

Needs a downside for the massive damage you are gaining.

In comparing of what? 115KK comet bloodmage doesn't use maces.
1KKK burst ball lightning\flame wall ritualist doesn't use maces.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/bannerboy14-5454/Yujji?i=13&search=sort%3Ddps

This guy uses maces. And he has mirror-tier gear, but only 2100 HP, 12000 armor and not even capped chaos res. Oneshot or be oneshotted. He invested everything in damage and is still worse than bloodmage. I even dont compare defence. It's negligible.

Whats your point?

You linked someone dual wiedling 2h maces that invested fully into damage.

My point is 3x requirement is far enough. For class, that is clunky, slow, and not the biggest damage, nerfing his defences is absurd.

"

FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

Endgame Geonor with 150 del, union of souls and 2 azmeri wisps. Try it.

Weird goalpost


must have missed the patch notes.

"

FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

My point is 3x requirement is far enough. For class, that is clunky, slow, and not the biggest damage, nerfing his defences is absurd.

Thats not enough as a penalty. A stat requirement and thats it? And you can get a mod that undoes that entirely anyways.

No