Mass Ban people who exploit currency so bad it trashes the economy.

The economy is already dead, forget it, and move on. You can either make new character and exploit temple yourself or quit the game. There is not much to do there anyway.

We are 0 leagues without exploits so far in PoE 2.

I got these 3 mirrors doing this PoE2 trick just for last 2 hours.

And yeah the people that say exploits gotta be you hacking the GGG server and reading the loot-tables from thee are obviously not right. This temple trick does not pass smell check to any degree, it is obviously unintended usage of game mechanics (also known as exploiting)

You guys would even say me duplicating items by clicking at them quickly is just game mechanic and i have no idea if it is exploit because i did not read ggg's code that perhaps intended to reward me for doing it at 200% per 3 clicks so my 5000000mirrors/minute strat is completely legitimate.

No, this is never how you define exploiting, you are likely just defending yourself here, which is understandable but makes no logical sense.

This is also exploit that has happened like 8 times before in some variation in poe1 and was ALWAYS patched out. If it is not exploit, it would not be always patched. (they really messed up allowing this again ofcourse) this time with 50000000% loot value of running normal endgame. And it is even more exploity than normally as i describe below. Because normally it is just people running low tier version of the mechanic on repeat. In this case it is a lot worse:

This is not people just running league mechanic normally, enjoying the good loot. This is high level characters joining low level players specifically to exploit level scaling of the temple, that is scaled to the character level in the campaign instance while low level player does not run the temple and just resets the zone infinitely also stopping his own character progress to enable this exploit.
So the instance owner does not even do the league mechanic which maximizes the reward, we are not stupid, if it ducks like duck if it looks like duck if it duck duck it duck duck duck!

So yeah if you have player that is just resetting instances and not actually playing or progressing to max profit, no one is gullible enough to believe it is not exploit.

There is already million videos about it from big poe youtubers and streamers, otherwise i would not even go in to these specifics.


Now, should people get banned for it, considering it is early access and stuff?
Well, they would do it on full release too, but i admit that is pretty good shield from pernament ban, banning them for duration of this specific league makes perfect sense tho. ToS at no point claims "exploiting in the EA is fine, enjoy!"

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Because it ignores.....everything. You are trying to take the easy way out...

No, it ignores nothing.

I'm here. I want to follow the rules. As long as they tell me what's right or wrong, I can play based on that. Set the bare at X? Fine, I can related. Set it at Y? Totally OK. Set it at N? I might disagree, but at least I know.

You seem to think I talked about GGG's "common sense" as something positive. I didn't, I talked about it as it's "all we have to go on", which is quite frankly not enough - as I said in the paragraph after using the words "common sense".

It's like you want this debate to be deeper or more hostile than it needs to be, and keep pushing for something no one is talking about. That, or my broken English is breaking you. Lets try this again, and please; focus on what I'm saying now:

I don't care where they set the bar, as long as they set the bar. Make it transparent, make it clear. That way, every player know exactly what to expect and how to behave/play. Silence, letting the community speculate or deliberately ignoring it iasn't helping anyone.

Now, what in the bolded part did you disagree with?

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CAKE#4700 wrote:

I got these 3 mirrors doing this PoE2 trick just for last 2 hours.

Exploit so strong, he got mirrors from PoE2 into Keepers !

Got 3 more from time of my last post, this PoE2 exploit needs to be stopped asap.
Or we will need new league 1 day from now, just so things do not cost 2000mirrors each.

But hey people can consider this exploit to be christmas present to them.
World of Warcraft rule was always "exploit early exploit often" and sadly it is the case for other games too, especially mmos where if you do not play first month or two, there is no point starting because you are not ever gonna catch up to that PvP gear build from 99999999999999materials that takes 9000000000000000000years to farm by normal means but first months have trick or two to get that much in minutes. I can not even name mmo where this did not happen, from black desert to trove. And no one ever gets punished, as it often means banning half the veteran playerbase, which is instant death for relatively new mmo.

It is tough to balance healthy playerbase with ingame economy being taken seriously. If this was crypto-bet i'd bet every last poopcoin on no one being punsihed for this PoE2 exploit directly. It is just fun to talk about.
It is also less serious than many we had before, there was straight up duping going on in so many versions. And in poe2 you could just get best gear infinitely by disconnecting your internet in the boss chambar(that is where the 90000000 unachievablium chestarmors came from)

It is better chance that someone raging about the exploit on the forums gets punished instead, after getting in to flamewar with user claiming unachievable definitions of words discussed.

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CAKE#4700 wrote:

I got these 3 mirrors doing this PoE2 trick just for last 2 hours.

Rookie numbers, I made 5! In only 1 hour! Could have gotten more but my show was on so I had to log off!

A league lasts two months, people already had decent temples going and are still printing raw currency at a significantly higher rate than any other form of content in the game.

With all this in mind why was removing holton (the only way to catch up in a reasonable time and diminish fomo) was a good idea?

The lack of punishment for clear exploits is really disappointing from GGG. As multiple people stated GGG just support - Exploit early, exploit often. (In case of some add step - go to forum to say how much its not exploit)

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

The economy is already dead, forget it, and move on. You can either make new character and exploit temple yourself or quit the game. There is not much to do there anyway.

We are 0 leagues without exploits so far in PoE 2.

Exactly. All people wanted was more to do on the atlas, and instead we get Sanctum, just for exploiters. Zero baseline loot unless you have a stacked temple. Literally zero reason to ever enter the temple unless you are staring at a spreadsheet. Everything they claimed this game was going to be just seems more and more like a pipe dream. These leagues happen on this same cycle to the benefit of the RMT community. This league is like a group of people sat down and tried their absolute hardest to find a way to put ALL of the drops in the hands of the top .1%, while anyone else running temples got nothing. I cannot believe they say the game is balanced around the economy, yet leave it this mismanaged.

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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CAKE#4700 wrote:

I got these 3 mirrors doing this PoE2 trick just for last 2 hours.

Rookie numbers, I made 5! In only 1 hour! Could have gotten more but my show was on so I had to log off!

the funny thing is that such number of mirrors can be made without using any special abuse tactics crafting and flipping is enough to make 20 mirrors per league easily)