4 months cycle development is not working

I've said before that I think triple G bit off more than they can chew with this, relatively fast rhythm. Then again, I don't know of a similar attempt/trend in the (arpg) gaming industry and am all for pioneers pushing the boundaries. You have to break some eggs to make an omelette and being Cpt. Hindsight is not all that useful.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

they do still care about this game.

Do they? Or are they just making the minimum amount of effort to make it profitable enough to fund PoE2? (Yeah, yeah, I know PoE2 is more than capable of funding itself).

The question here, between all the doomsaying and hyperbole, is of course "how much" they care and "why" they care. Are they pushing out new PoE1 league because they are still passionate about the game and have clear plans for the future, or are they pushing out new leagues just because PoE1 is still profitable?

I would say that if they really cared, we would have what they said we would 6 years ago. And if they really have plans for the future of PoE1, show us, tell us, talk to us. Be transparent.

i feel like theres an element here were while poe2 is being developed, as has been said acts, monsters, bosses, the core game, while theyre still building that they cant put as much into poe1 as they want to long term.

thing is that pulls in 2 directions right? cause if you pull resources from poe2 to better server poe1 now then you prolong poe2s development and that means poe1 will have to suffer for longer. personally i would be fine with them just defunding poe1 and ignoring it to get poe2 finished asap and then we can finally get into the 4 month cycle. but im not everyone, the people not interested in both games will always be frustrated by the other suffering right now.





cause thats the thing, were not in the 4 month cycle really. we are in A 4 month cycle, we are not in THE 4 month cycle where we have 2 complete core games getting 4 month leagues built for them. that hasnt happened yet, poe2 is still in development, so we are still in limbo. i find the claim its not working odd, because what isnt working? both games are being worked on, poe is being developed and is moving closer to the point where it can be released and they can start alternating leagues? i feel like the only way that cant be working is if progress on poe2 is not quick enough and the answer there is draw more resources away from poe1, because this is a temporary situation that is not ideal for either game and the goal surely is to get to the other side of this situation?


i dunno. i think not liking keepers of the flame is not how we should be judging this arrangement, i think how far is poe2 from being ready to just settle into league updates and expansions is the only real metric here because until that happens we cant get to the proper alternating league cycle.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

thing is that pulls in 2 directions right? cause if you pull resources from poe2 to better server poe1 now then you prolong poe2s development and that means poe1 will have to suffer for longer. personally i would be fine with them just defunding poe1 and ignoring it to get poe2 finished asap and then we can finally get into the 4 month cycle. but im not everyone, the people not interested in both games will always be frustrated by the other suffering right now.

That would be sensible and it was in fact what had happened. However, the problem is, they showed that if they are given a finger they will take a hand, in other words, they would start coming up with new stuff (mechanics), adding things they previously couldn't.

Honestly, I don't think focusing solely on POE2 development would make much a difference.

yea we want less LUL

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

i find the claim its not working odd, because what isnt working? both games are being worked on, poe is being developed and is moving closer to the point where it can be released and they can start alternating leagues?

Because it just isn't? We got a new "expansion" after 2.5x the development time of every other so far, and then it was basically half-assed, introduced unfinished and ending with a cliffhanger, while also not having been properly tweaked since it was added. The COVID excuse doesn't work anymore and it wouldn't have helped, either, because even during COVID times, GGG managed to push out meaningful expansions on schedule.

Fact is, as PoE 2's Early Access release was creeping closer, PoE 1 was left to rot for quite some time. And to kick the donkey in the nuts, they gave PoE 2 a fully fledged Atziri expansion with a new OG Atziri boss, when she isn't even part of the game but only in spirit, yet PoE 1 has had Atziri as a core part of the game since the introduction of The Sacrifice of the Vaal in 1.1.0, one of the game's best expansions to date that is still present everywhere today in the form of Vaal gems, Vaal Souls, etc.

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Path of Exile: Sacrifice of the Vaal (colloquially known as SotV) is the first mini-expansion for Path of Exile. It was announced on February 14, 2014 and released on March 5, 2014. The majority of the new content is based around the return of Atziri, Queen of the Vaal.

And I will continue to be openly salty about this until PoE 1 gets this expansion as it truly deserves.

3 months cycle is crazy for both games. its way too taxing on developers and gamers. as everyone said 6 month would be the sweet spot with 3 months of cycling between poe 1 and 2.

Gentlemen, we are not in a 4 months cycle.

We are in 2 weeks dev cycle for Path of Exile.

And 3.5 months dev cycle for Path of Exile 2.

RIP Path of Exile.

2 weeks?

uh.

If they can cook all that in 2 weeks, then that's really impressive.

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AlvinL_#4492 wrote:

If they can cook all that in 2 weeks, then that's really impressive.

These GGG interns are really good.