[Feedback] Giga-Nerf Gem Levels on Gear in Patch 0.5

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

It’s all unnecessary damage

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karsey#2995 wrote:

My point is that I think there are clever things to add that could work, and if each level past 20 offers a functionality change instead of a straight up damage increase, it could make the +lvls suffix feel more interesting rather than mandatory.

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Jyrlep#4788 wrote:

Keep in mind that if the recommendation includes reducing +levels on items, then that power needs to come from somewhere else.

Otherwise, getting to level 40 becomes very difficult. Even with a +21 corrupted gem, you still need another +19 total levels, and that is already hard enough now.

So where should that come from? The passive tree? Ascendancies? Somewhere else?

I am fine with reducing item power, but simply lowering the numbers without addressing how players are supposed to reach level 40 does not really solve the problem.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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Jyrlep#4788 wrote:

Keep in mind that if the recommendation includes reducing +levels on items, then that power needs to come from somewhere else.

Otherwise, getting to level 40 becomes very difficult. Even with a +21 corrupted gem, you still need another +19 total levels, and that is already hard enough now.

So where should that come from? The passive tree? Ascendancies? Somewhere else?

I am fine with reducing item power, but simply lowering the numbers without addressing how players are supposed to reach level 40 does not really solve the problem.

point is to remove player power.

Not keep the stupid over the top power fantasy where even flame wall, the weakest skill in the game, not meant for damage; deletes arbiter in seconds because of a single modifier multiplying damage to high.

The mod is too strong, and it scales way too high.

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FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

If we talk about "unnecessary damage" provided by +gem levels.

100% Critical hit chance with 1300% multiplicator and bifurcation should not exist, it's unnecessary damage.

13 attacks per seconds should not exist, it's unnecessary damage.

Additional damage from minions to non-unique enemies should not exist it's unnecessary damage.

Cast on "any crap" should not exist, press the buttons.


In other words, if we talk about nerfing damage, ALL mechanics of the game should be adjusted. Otherwise, critical strike builds will become mandatory (even more, than now).


I remember 0.1, where was like 10000% Hammer of The Gods attack damage on 40 lvl (because it scaled 10% more per each level). And was warrior in meta? No, he was weak. And attribute stacker was in meta. Surprice, he didn't use +level gear. Tempest Flurry was usually at 20 lvl.

The answer is not removed gem levels. The answer is work harder on whole game balance. Much, much harder.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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FeuerEuphorie#2801 wrote:

If we talk about "unnecessary damage" provided by +gem levels.

100% Critical hit chance with 1300% multiplicator and bifurcation should not exist, it's unnecessary damage.

13 attacks per seconds should not exist, it's unnecessary damage.

Additional damage from minions to non-unique enemies should not exist it's unnecessary damage.

Cast on "any crap" should not exist, press the buttons.


In other words, if we talk about nerfing damage, ALL mechanics of the game should be adjusted. Otherwise, critical strike builds will become mandatory (even more, than now).


I remember 0.1, where was like 10000% Hammer of The Gods attack damage on 40 lvl (because it scaled 10% more per each level). And was warrior in meta? No, he was weak. And attribute stacker was in meta. Surprice, he didn't use +level gear. Tempest Flurry was usually at 20 lvl.

The answer is not removed gem levels. The answer is work harder on whole game balance. Much, much harder.

This theory all falls apart when you can, currently, play without +gem/skill levels on your gear.

Or have a crit build.

And complete any and all content, including juice, in the game.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

This theory all falls apart when you can, currently, play without +gem/skill levels on your gear.

Or have a crit build.

And complete any and all content, including juice, in the game.