Please create Div shards and auto break div into fractional div

Please make div shards. The fact I have to spend gold to buy chaos to then spend gold to exchange for other items with Faustus has become cumbersome and silly.

If an item is 7.4 div then I have to get 7.4 div worth of chaos and then buy the item or take a huge chaos hit. I should spend 8 div and get 6 shards back (assuming it's 10 shards per div). They do not have to drop and can be exclusive to faustus as "change".

Thank you.

Haha, do you really think 8 div shards (the equivalent of 0.4 div) would cost 0.4 div? Are you serious? Just like the sum of divination cards is always more than the end product, the div shards would cost more than their sum, therefore you still would need to pay more. Better just settle with 7 or farm a bit for 8

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

Haha, do you really think 8 div shards (the equivalent of 0.4 div) would cost 0.4 div? Are you serious? Just like the sum of divination cards is always more than the end product, the div shards would cost more than their sum, therefore you still would need to pay more. Better just settle with 7 or farm a bit for 8

I'm going to be extremely honest with you. I have no idea what you're talking about at all. I'm not sure how to respond. When did I say 8 shards?

Also the current method I use is to convert to chaos and then buy as chaos. Chaos are basically Div Shards with extra steps right now. Not sure what you even mean in any capacity.

20 shards form an orb. 0.4 of an orb means 8 shards.

Hard no to this one. Shards is a Harbinger-only thing and not everyone uses Faustus to conduct trades.

I'm gathering from your post and your changing my shard suggestion that your concern with my suggestion is that if there were 20 divine shards, the shards individually would be more valuable when added to a stack of 20 than it would be otherwise even though I made it clear it should only be a form of change from faustus? This would solve your concern as there would be only one way to aquire and/or use them.

And on top of that, my suggestion is to resolve the cumbersome issues of changing to chaos and then buying with chaos and you had no alternative solution except just do 8 div and lose the .6 div from my scenario? Honestly man, there are a lot of you guys around now and I can't tell when people are just rage baiting or trolling or just not paying attention and I've become unbelievably frustrated with this community. I'm just going to ignore you from now on. Good Luck to you.

Literally nothing you said had anything to do with my point nor did you provide alternative solution and as I read what you said more, you're just trying to make fun of me and honestly it's a terrible attempt. GLHF SS

Your suggestion is too convoluted to begin with. So, you want to receive shards when you trade but the shards themselves are not going to be tradable and will be there just for your convenience because having an already automated trade is simply not enough for you?

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

Your suggestion is too convoluted to begin with. So, you want to receive shards when you trade but the shards themselves are not going to be tradable and will be there just for your convenience because having an already automated trade is simply not enough for you?

Thanks for confirming that you're trolling. I do appreciate it.

My suggestion would make it one single trade where the divine is broken down to total divines plus the shards instead of two trades where we trade divine for chaos and then chaos back for the item to avoid overpaying by .x divine. Again, making two trades into one trade. But it's "convoluted"?

Then you make something up I not only didn't say at all, but couldn't even be implied by anything I said. I suggested to only get it from faustus, not that shards wouldn't be untradeable. Why would this particular shard suddenly and magically be the shard of shards that I wouldn't want tradeable? I just suggested it doesn't have to drop. All shards are currently tradeable. Where did I mentioned ANYTHING that suggested it shouldn't be tradeable? My assumption was that faustus would break into shards for us and I may not have specified but if you would have asked the question on some of the logistics, I would suggest that If I have 8 shards and something is 7.4 div then I could spend 7 divine and 8 shards to meet the cost. Could I have pre-empted the question? Maybe but to assume some radical stuff about it not being tradeable is hilarious.

Then you suggest that the automated system (where my only suggestion was to add divine shards to make it easier for trade) is something that doesn't make me happy. Again, could have asked but I think if it didn't make me happy, I would have complained a lot more about the system. I do wish beasts were tradeable with Faustus

Bro, I went from unsure if you're rage baiting to 100% certain you're trolling. And part of trolling is getting a response. You win buddy. Like, I'm genuinely done responding to you but I have to admit that the effort worked out and you received a response. Great effort, probably a 2/10 for execution though. Caught me on an off day maybe?

This made my day man. Thanks.

But for this to be implemented divine shards need to be turned into drops from somewhere and be able to be traded.

Here's the problem with this suggestion: it infers that fractions of currency is a necessary part of trading. Or rather, it infers that the current way of balancing multiple currency types ISN'T the main point of trading.

When someone lists an item for "7.x divine", that doesn't mean they are specifically looking for useless divine shards as change: rather, it says the item is worth "more than 7 divines, but less than 8 divines". Functionally, that person would probably rather have immediately usable chaos orbs versus cumbersome useless fragments. I know I certainly would. And I've had numerous trades turned down when I attempted to use "exalt shards" to cover the change cost because all that does is lay a burden on the seller to either trade those shards themselves, or buy enough to make a full orb at cost.

The worst thing that was ever implemented into this game were fragments of any kind. The entire point of the currency system of PoE is that "change" is in a lesser currency type and NOT fragments of the same currency. Currency items are usable items, that is their PRIMARY function. NOT trade. Fragments of usable items are.....no longer usable. It completely changes and eradicates the rationale for a non-gold system which was the foundation of PoE's trade and currency system.

What makes this idea even worse is you suggest these shards would ONLY be used for Faustus trades and trade in general. You wouldn't be able to find them otherwise and make full orbs. This goes back to the whole "Currency is actual, usable items" thing. The idea is simply making them LESS usable outside of only trade.


I'd be open to faustus potentially giving change in the form of chaos (based on the current median rate), but definitely NOT more shards.