Mirror and RMT - Major Economy Disbalance

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

I also think Mirror could stay and still be incredibly valuable, by making it one-time use only, puts a mirror tag on both items, like in last epoch for example.

That would stop the economic abuse, and would force those shops to keep crafting items, and not be like craft one item per league and job is done.

I disagree completely. How I would change the game, is that people are only allowed to complain about one aspect one single time. Yes, I am being facetious.

People complained about Shavronne's Wrappings, Kaom's Heart, Mageblood, Harvest crafting, etc etc being too powerful. People complain about currency being too accessible or too rare.

Crafting a top quality item is not something within the reach of the average player. They can farm up to buy such an item, but such items will only be available if they can be mirrored multiple times. Otherwise the cost is just too great.

RMT is a completely separate problem from mirrors. In general, PoE has become far too skewed in the direction of item value. There is less and less of the game that depends on skill or game knowledge.

I don't want any Last Epoch, or D3 or any other game influence on PoE. If you don't like the way mirrors work in PoE, then don't use them.

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fredjesus1#3795 wrote:

which can only be done by increasingly zomzom builds made with THESE ITEMS purchased with real money.

Then eliminate the RMT. If you have roaches in your house, you don't burn the house down to get rid of them.

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DalaiLama#6738 wrote:

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fredjesus1#3795 wrote:

which can only be done by increasingly zomzom builds made with THESE ITEMS purchased with real money.

Then eliminate the RMT. If you have roaches in your house, you don't burn the house down to get rid of them.

Well said.

Some people who don't mirror gear also think that everyone who does must be using RMT sites.

Before anyone says, "Oh but I've played (x) amount of time and I've not dropped one."

If you're playing the game, outside of something like Affliction, and you're expecting a mirror to drop, you're deluded. That's like betting your house that you'll win the lottery.

There are ways to make mirrors that are not hard, they just take time and some investment.

I think if these same people were to learn how to make mirrors, they wouldn't make these posts.

Something I learned from D2 is that you don't generate wealth by just playing the game; you use bots to farm high level runes/currency. This is still true today.

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6_din_49#4066 wrote:

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Rassomaxa69#5346 wrote:

Ruetoo noob.
Removing the mirror will make the situation much worse. Schizophrenia

+1

Mirror tier items would simply sell for real money. RMT-ers would adapt to this change easily.

How the hell would they adapt? You would have to craft each new mirror item individually, no more sitting back and printing unlimited currency.

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Beavith#5056 wrote:

I think if these same people were to learn how to make mirrors, they wouldn't make these posts.

That is why Fubgun and Ruetoo support deleting the mirror from the game, clearly these guys never have seen or farmed a mirror themselves. Big brain alert.

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

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Beavith#5056 wrote:

I think if these same people were to learn how to make mirrors, they wouldn't make these posts.

That is why Fubgun and Ruetoo support deleting the mirror from the game, clearly these guys never have seen or farmed a mirror themselves. Big brain alert.

...and who are in the forums complaining about it?

None of them.

It's you, and people like you. Giga brain alert.

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hasatt0#7256 wrote:

Something I learned from D2 is that you don't generate wealth by just playing the game; you use bots to farm high level runes/currency. This is still true today.

i called my mirrordudes not bots but sailors, specifically kingsmarch sailors. not that hard ey? and without cheating.

and if you play the game to generate wealth then maybe another genre is more up your alley?

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

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6_din_49#4066 wrote:

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Rassomaxa69#5346 wrote:

Ruetoo noob.
Removing the mirror will make the situation much worse. Schizophrenia

+1

Mirror tier items would simply sell for real money. RMT-ers would adapt to this change easily.

How the hell would they adapt? You would have to craft each new mirror item individually, no more sitting back and printing unlimited currency.

You realize it would just mean each of those mirror items would cost 10-100 times more than before, because they will be one and only, instead one of many?
THose who craft those items and sell them wont lose anything.

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Aynix#7757 wrote:

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GODOFWARSANCHEZ#4574 wrote:

How the hell would they adapt? You would have to craft each new mirror item individually, no more sitting back and printing unlimited currency.

You realize it would just mean each of those mirror items would cost 10-100 times more than before, because they will be one and only, instead one of many?
THose who craft those items and sell them wont lose anything.

Most of those mirror items wouldn't exist. You don't need mirror items. People craft them because there's money in doing so. Spending several hundred divines (if not thousand) to craft a mirror item? Not many people are going to do that, because it just isn't worth it for them.