General Discussion - Bring back old supporter packs? - Forum

" Marabitos#0703 wrote: " Aynix#7757 wrote: They cant bring them back. They were selling them for over 10 years on the premise that they are TIME LIMITED and will NEVER come back. We are also talking about a game that despite what anyone says, is nearing its end of life. Why not do the standard MMO procedure of beating it for every penny they can? I'm normally against such ideas, but if it gets GGG some money and gives them a reason to keep it around longer... I'm kinda on board. Such a stupid argument. Why would PoE near its end? PoE1 broke player numbers almost every subsequent league. PoE2 had higher numbers because of marketing, people giving away many free keys and "NEW GAME". PoE2 has as bad a player retention as any other ARPG. If they keep developing for PoE1, there will be plenty PoE1 players that will support it. Stop trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy that it might end. Many players, including me, prefer PoE1 over PoE2.	Posted by Marthuk#0788 on May 28, 2025, 2:52:32 AM Quote this Post
" Ulsarek#7159 wrote: " Marabitos#0703 wrote: " Aynix#7757 wrote: They cant bring them back. They were selling them for over 10 years on the premise that they are TIME LIMITED and will NEVER come back. We are also talking about a game that despite what anyone says, is nearing its end of life. Why not do the standard MMO procedure of beating it for every penny they can? I'm normally against such ideas, but if it gets GGG some money and gives them a reason to keep it around longer... I'm kinda on board. They can't bring them back legally. This would be an option in EU but not in NZ. Now if they'd do a small recolor / reskin of past supporter packs that would be an option. Personally I'd also buy some of the past ones but it's not a big deal. At this point I'd rather they hurry up and port my existing mtx to PoE 2, as advertised. None of this is actually true. First, if you go back with WayBackMachine and check the old pages, it says nowhere that this content is a one-time exclusive purchase to never return to the shop. What they do say, however, is that they were exclusive to that league. This can be twisted/interpreted in multiple ways and would not give you an edge in court. Second, checking up on NZ's laws in that regard, none of them apply here because there was nothing misleading or inaccurate. You could get upset, but what does that even mean these days. If GGG decides to bring those packs back, there's nothing you can legally do about it. Shaper Beam Totems: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3797903 Gorilla Pop: youtu.be/JYGmntfn1ho Lazy Susie: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3709173 The Unplayable Build: youtu.be/WlyVf34_TiI Poor Man's Ward Loop: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3480922	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on May 28, 2025, 3:21:27 AM Quote this Post
" Sarno#0493 wrote: " Marabitos#0703 wrote: Why not do the standard MMO procedure of beating it for every penny they can? The more supporter packs a person has purchased in the past, the more aggrieved they would feel by this apparent betrayal / broken promise / whatever you want to call it. I don't know that driving away the game's most (financially) generous backers is the best way of milking it as much as they can. Besides; just offering every tier of every supporter pack ever would result in some profound levels of decision fatigue that'd likely tank sales. If they want to increase sales, they should come up with some half-baked rationale for doubling the number of top-tier supporter packs available, in the hopes that as many whales as possible start buying both $480 packs. Which I assume is, essentially, the only reason PoE 2 will exist... I personally wouldn't mind them coming back on like, a random monthly rotation or something? I don't feel particularly aggrieved over the idea of people having access to them, but then again I've never been a fan of fomo / exclusivity being used as a selling point anyway. /shrug Souls along a conduit of blood, from one vessel to the next.	Posted by Risxas#7671 on May 28, 2025, 7:49:38 AM Quote this Post
" BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: None of this is actually true. First, if you go back with WayBackMachine and check the old pages, it says nowhere that this content is a one-time exclusive purchase to never return to the shop. What they do say, however, is that they were exclusive to that league. This can be twisted/interpreted in multiple ways and would not give you an edge in court. Second, checking up on NZ's laws in that regard, none of them apply here because there was nothing misleading or inaccurate. You could get upset, but what does that even mean these days. If GGG decides to bring those packs back, there's nothing you can legally do about it. Actually, it's pretty much true. GGG has consistently marketed their supporter packs as exclusive to specific leagues and available only for a limited time. Supporter Packs were explicitly stated to contain exclusive microtransactions that would not return to the store. While there may not be a specific law that outright prohibits bringing them back, GGG is still bound by other laws and regulations, not just in New Zealand, but also in the European Union and North America (US & Canada). These laws prohibit misleading or deceptive marketing practices. Re-releasing products that were sold under the clear implication of exclusivity could easily fall afoul of those standards, especially if customers made purchases based on that exclusivity. Spoiler New Zealand " "The Fair Trading Act makes it illegal for traders to mislead consumers, give false information, or use unfair practices." European Union " "Misleading practices, either through action (giving false information) or omission (leaving out important information)" are prohibited. United States " "Under the law, claims in advertisements must be truthful, cannot be deceptive or unfair, and must be evidence-based." Windows 11, 9950X3D, RTX 4090, 96GB DDR5, 14,100 MB/s SSD, 15,360x2160p @240Hz Ultra 4K Gaming & Workspace Powerhouse Last edited by VoidWhisperer42#5989 on May 28, 2025, 8:21:14 AM	Posted by VoidWhisperer42#5989 on May 28, 2025, 8:09:26 AM Quote this Post
" VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote: None of this is actually true. Dude, no. Aside from the direct quotes from government sites, everything you've said is misinformation. They started this "exclusivity" trend in 2019, and only in this form: " These packs are available for a limited time. They will be replaced when the next expansion is announced. " These packs will be available until our March expansion announcement. Sources: 2013 2016 2018 2019 2020 2023 2025 Blessed be the web archive. "Limited time" does not mean that they cannot make a comeback. There is no omission here, no misleading or deceptive practices, and neither were these packs ever marketed as a one-time done-and-done deal. They can absolutely bring them back if they wanted to. Shaper Beam Totems: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3797903 Gorilla Pop: youtu.be/JYGmntfn1ho Lazy Susie: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3709173 The Unplayable Build: youtu.be/WlyVf34_TiI Poor Man's Ward Loop: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3480922	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on May 28, 2025, 8:25:43 AM Quote this Post
" Risxas#7671 wrote: I personally wouldn't mind them coming back on like, a random monthly rotation or something? Rust does something similar, with weekly skin rotations, available only for that specific week. Though you can later sell them on the market. Shaper Beam Totems: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3797903 Gorilla Pop: youtu.be/JYGmntfn1ho Lazy Susie: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3709173 The Unplayable Build: youtu.be/WlyVf34_TiI Poor Man's Ward Loop: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3480922	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on May 28, 2025, 8:29:56 AM Quote this Post
" BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: They can absolutely bring them back if they wanted to. Legally? Yes, they can. But mark my word most die-hard supporters would feel like its just "milking strategy" and would stop supporting the game.	Posted by Aynix#7757 on May 28, 2025, 9:13:21 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" Aynix#7757 wrote: " BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: They can absolutely bring them back if they wanted to. Legally? Yes, they can. But mark my word most die-hard supporters would feel like its just "milking strategy" and would stop supporting the game. Dude, this is like my third account. I've spent literal thousands over the years. I even bought the $1100 pack back then, to make a Div card. I can only speak for myself here, but I honestly wouldn't mind if they did bring them back, in fact, I'd love it. Every "die hard" supporter should remind themselves what the money was used for, so it doesn't matter anymore. Shaper Beam Totems: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3797903 Gorilla Pop: youtu.be/JYGmntfn1ho Lazy Susie: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3709173 The Unplayable Build: youtu.be/WlyVf34_TiI Poor Man's Ward Loop: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3480922	Posted by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on May 28, 2025, 9:23:37 AM Quote this Post
" BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: " Aynix#7757 wrote: " BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: They can absolutely bring them back if they wanted to. Legally? Yes, they can. But mark my word most die-hard supporters would feel like its just "milking strategy" and would stop supporting the game. Dude, this is like my third account. I've spent literal thousands over the years. I even bought the $1100 pack back then, to make a Div card. I can only speak for myself here, but I honestly wouldn't mind if they did bring them back, in fact, I'd love it. Every "die hard" supporter should remind themselves what the money was used for, so it doesn't matter anymore. Well I hope GGG does not listen to people like Baumis whose prior accounts were banned because ... and now wants to get their old supporter mtx back. Your goal and intentions are crystal clear.	Posted by TheDarkKnightRises_POE#2069 on May 28, 2025, 11:08:46 AM Quote this Post
" BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote: Dude, this is like my third account. I've spent literal thousands over the years. I even bought the $1100 pack back then, to make a Div card. I can only speak for myself here, but I honestly wouldn't mind if they did bring them back, in fact, I'd love it. Every "die hard" supporter should remind themselves what the money was used for, so it doesn't matter anymore. You are you, Jimmy is Jimmy. What card did you make, BTW? Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.	Posted by Phrazz#3529 on May 28, 2025, 11:11:57 AM Quote this Post