The GGG / TenCent "Vision" Needs Glasses. (Video Act 3 Cruel Rootdredge v Cold Huntress)

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

I don't care if he's doing constellations or making a scene from the Teddy-Bear Picnic with this passive tree.
Even if it's not optimal, it should absolutely, without a doubt, get you through the campaign.

Endgame is a different story. If you're going to progress there, then you should be optimizing.

Then again, you shouldn't be criticizing too harshly. If they would stop trying to market this like a live release and actually get to work on skills, you might have a point at poking fun at this guy.
Take glacial cascade for example. This should be a viable skill (if leveled up) at any level. It should be on par with storm wave. The difference should be what works for your play style and build.
Instead, glacial cascade is downright awful.
And it's just left in the game.
Untouched.
But hey, they finally nerfed that OP wind dancer.

So your argument is that the baseline should be that you can get trough the campaign nomatter ho bad your build/gear is even if you cant avoid the mechanics?

So I can just make a dogshit build, wear the same white gear throughout the campaign, stand in the fire and I should still be expecting to get trough it?

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

350% x 0
It's garbage.
Also, don't conflate "hard" with time consuming. So many people get this wrong.
Furthermore, any "difficulty" this game has is completely negated by gear.

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

I didn't say not to avoid boss mechanics. You still have to actually, play the game.
Other than that, yes.
100% Yes.
If you allocate all of your passives, they should be good enough to carry you without optimizing.
DURING THE CAMPAIGN.

Even in endgame, if you allocate your points into applicable nodes into a build
it should work to some extent.

There are so many skills and abilities that should overlap but they are slowly removing it to the point where people will HAVE to play a tried and tested meta build.
A good example of this is herald of plague and herald of ash. Why the need for a martial weapon? Why can't a spell caster use ash? Its overkill so all fire should use it.
Its all that vision stuff.

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

Playing 4 seasons on classical guitar is hard.
That takes skill.
Buying a top of the line guitar doesn't trivialize the difficulty of the piece.

Having top of the line gear to the point where you can vaporize arbiter of ash before the second phase is not skill.
Getting the currency to afford that isn't difficult, just time consuming.
A lot of time.
Well, time and RNG.

Most people have an average 7 interactive abilities.
You aren't splitting atoms.
You're not an air traffic controller.

The only reason people associate this with "difficulty" is because they have their egos attached.

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

Playing 4 seasons on classical guitar is hard.
That takes skill.
Buying a top of the line guitar doesn't trivialize the difficulty of the piece.

Having top of the line gear to the point where you can vaporize arbiter of ash before the second phase is not skill.
Getting the currency to afford that isn't difficult, just time consuming.
A lot of time.
Well, time and RNG.

Most people have an average 7 interactive abilities.
You aren't splitting atoms.
You're not an air traffic controller.

The only reason people associate this with "difficulty" is because they have their egos attached.

Im gonna make an educated guess and say that your lvl 30 and stuck in act 3.
Based solely on your perspective of the game and this resentful attitude of "everyone just having giga gear and one shotting every boss"

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

Playing 4 seasons on classical guitar is hard.
That takes skill.
Buying a top of the line guitar doesn't trivialize the difficulty of the piece.

Having top of the line gear to the point where you can vaporize arbiter of ash before the second phase is not skill.
Getting the currency to afford that isn't difficult, just time consuming.
A lot of time.
Well, time and RNG.

Most people have an average 7 interactive abilities.
You aren't splitting atoms.
You're not an air traffic controller.

The only reason people associate this with "difficulty" is because they have their egos attached.

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Kalistri#2788 wrote:

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

Playing 4 seasons on classical guitar is hard.
That takes skill.
Buying a top of the line guitar doesn't trivialize the difficulty of the piece.

Having top of the line gear to the point where you can vaporize arbiter of ash before the second phase is not skill.
Getting the currency to afford that isn't difficult, just time consuming.
A lot of time.
Well, time and RNG.

Most people have an average 7 interactive abilities.
You aren't splitting atoms.
You're not an air traffic controller.

The only reason people associate this with "difficulty" is because they have their egos attached.

You're presenting a false dichotomy by talking about the game as though it can be either difficult or not. Difficulty isn't an on/off switch, it's a spectrum. Particularly for rpgs, you can adjust the difficulty by gearing up and leveling up. You don't need to buy top of the line gear to fight the arbiter, for instance.

If someone can fail at something in a situation where another person might succeed, that's how we define difficulty, which is just facts. In fact, if anything I think that this argument that the game isn't difficult is your ego talking because your idea of fun is a game that's easier than this, but you don't want to admit it.

Hell, I've heard this argument enough before this that I don't even think it's your ego talking. I wonder who was the first person to make this argument?

Anyway, I don't care what you want to call it. If someone goes around spamming abilities that don't make sense because they don't understand how their skills interact with each other, I think that person should need to level up or gear up a bit more in order to get through the campaign. Maybe there should be more cool side-bosses or something so that doing so is interesting, but I don't want it to be the case that you can simply get by like that. Why? Because if such a person can get through the campaign without spending that extra time then someone who does understand their build and how to play it is only ever going to have engaging fights with by running past as many monsters as possible throughout the campaign in order to keep themselves underleveled. Basically, why should I be punished with an unengaging campaign because I made the effort to rtfm?

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

That's the reality of it. Getting your feelings all involved with "resent" doesn't change anything.
Attempting to attack whatever level you're wrong about is an ad hominem irrelevance.

My perspective on the game is accurate. It is based on gear. Scarcity (or perceived) is what keeps people playing.
The longer you play the more likely you are to spend money.

If this were all about skill then you'd see more naked or (white) and no hit runs similar to the souls series.
View it for what it is, not what you want it to be.

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Skyvortex#7923 wrote:

Gear is absolutely a "difficulty" switch that you can turn off and on.
Take your gear off except your weapon and go beat arbiter. You don't "need" that right? Surely your skill will suffice.
Like I said before, you have to engage with the game's mechanics. But to suggest that <press spacebar to roll dodge> is some sort of skill threshold is absurd. Hell, even that can be negated with gear. The argument is optimization vs functionality. My argument is that if you rolled your face over the keyboard to place your passive skill tree and allocated every single point, then it should still be functional although not optimal. Otherwise, start arguing that most of those nodes are useless.

My appeal to the game is the illusion of creativity. But, they don't want that. Why do you think there is a delay on lightning rod?
It's because of orb of storms.
It's not because I want an easier or more difficult game.