Nothing can save 0.2 update anymore

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

He's a Troll

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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AIDA_TriEdge#4390 wrote:

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

check poe 1 active players 26 days after release of last league check poe 2 active players 26 days after release which is now. . and you can see that poe 2 has less than half its not my problem that you dont even know how to look at data

I'm checking. So 5k > 55k 24 hours and 4k > 35k last 10 minutes and 5k > 91k average last 30 days is your math?

Checking your post in another thread is why my point stands that GGG should ignore player feedback, look at the raw data and what will be, will be. You say that the drops are bad, admit that after 0.2g there will be more and better drops and instead of being happy with a step in the right direction you continue to shit on GGG saying it's still bad. Since there's no way to please people like you, there's no point in even trying. Thus my point stands.

Dude... read what he wrote...

He is talking about "PoE2 0.2" in the first 26 days and "PoE1 3.25" in the first 26 days, and there the numbers look different.

PoE2 0.2
Peak 245k and after 26 days 62k.
That's only 25% peak remaining. Even worse if you look at the entire first month - peak 245k peak and at the end of the month 55k peak, thus 22% remaining.


actually numbers are even more in our favor.. .28 days later at 19th aug poe 1 still had 96.6k peak.. this guy need to redo school

PoE1 3.25
Peak 229k and after 26 days 88k.
That's 38% still remaining, and with a less crazy downward trend than PoE2.

Hell, even compare 0.2 to 0.1.
Patch 0.2 lost in 4 weeks the same amount of ppl (percentage-wise) as patch 0.1 in 3 months...

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Dude... read what he wrote...

He is talking about "PoE2 0.2" in the first 26 days and "PoE1 3.25" in the first 26 days, and there the numbers look different.

PoE2 0.2
Peak 245k and after 26 days 62k.
That's only 25% peak remaining. Even worse if you look at the entire first month - peak 245k peak and at the end of the month 55k peak, thus 22% remaining.

PoE1 3.25
Peak 229k and after 26 days 88k.
That's 38% still remaining, and with a less crazy downward trend than PoE2.

Hell, even compare 0.2 to 0.1.
Patch 0.2 lost in 4 weeks the same amount of ppl (percentage-wise) as patch 0.1 in 3 months...

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AIDA_TriEdge#4390 wrote:

Ok, i see where i misunderstood what he meant. Thanks for clearing it up. But having admitted my mistake there, i have to say that's a weird way of grasping for some kind of straws. Not to mention it's kind of dishonest if you dig a little deeper into the meat and potatoes of the "leagues"you're comparing. But even ignoring that his initial statement was POE 1 has more players than POE2 which is factually incorrect.

Looking content wise it's perfectly understandable why 0.2 is losing players quicker than 0.1 did. So i find it weird to use as a doom and gloom.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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AIDA_TriEdge#4390 wrote:

Ok, i see where i misunderstood what he meant. Thanks for clearing it up. But having admitted my mistake there, i have to say that's a weird way of grasping for some kind of straws. Not to mention it's kind of dishonest if you dig a little deeper into the meat and potatoes of the "leagues"you're comparing. But even ignoring that his initial statement was POE 1 has more players than POE2 which is factually incorrect.

Looking content wise it's perfectly understandable why 0.2 is losing players quicker than 0.1 did. So i find it weird to use as a doom and gloom.

The decline is based on content? Nah dude...

PoE2 0.1 avg month 1 - 304k
PoE2 0.2 avg month 1 - 92k
That's 70% off players not checking out PoE2 0.2 because they weren't interested enough in such a "nerf nuke" patch.

PoE2 0.2 peak start - 245k
PoE2 0.2 peak now - 60k
That's 76% leaving in 4 weeks because the patch is not good, period.

And PoE1 probably has more players than PoE2.
Sure, the peak of the last league was only 229k compared to the 245k PoE2 0.2 has, BUT PoE1 does not include Chinese players as PoE2 does...

PoE1 grew from year to year, from league to league, while PoE2 was able to drop from a record high down to "Lake of Kalandra" in 5 months... good job.

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LiMA6#0387 wrote:

Can you do an analysis of forum posts feedback, % of posts being negative/positive?

I wonder.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

The decline is based on content? Nah dude...

PoE2 0.1 avg month 1 - 304k
PoE2 0.2 avg month 1 - 92k
That's 70% off players not checking out PoE2 0.2 because they weren't interested enough in such a "nerf nuke" patch.

PoE2 0.2 peak start - 245k
PoE2 0.2 peak now - 60k
That's 76% leaving in 4 weeks because the patch is not good, period.

And PoE1 probably has more players than PoE2.
Sure, the peak of the last league was only 229k compared to the 245k PoE2 0.2 has, BUT PoE1 does not include Chinese players as PoE2 does...

PoE1 grew from year to year, from league to league, while PoE2 was able to drop from a record high down to "Lake of Kalandra" in 5 months... good job.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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LiMA6#0387 wrote:

Can you do an analysis of forum posts feedback, % of posts being negative/positive?

I wonder.

Not really. If I were to try to count the positive and negative threads to get a reliable dataset, I would face a major problem - moving threads.
For example, if I am on page 3 counting, but someone comments in a thread on page >3, the thread moves to page 1 and thus, does not get counted by me yadda yadda.
On top, ppl who made multiple threads with basically the same "PoE2 bad/good" stuff because "being loud = being right" would make the data in the first place not really reliable.

The only thing I can provide is my personal view, I've read many posts from both sides, and could draw a conclusion from that, but... won't change shit anyway.

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AIDA_TriEdge#4390 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

The decline is based on content? Nah dude...

PoE2 0.1 avg month 1 - 304k
PoE2 0.2 avg month 1 - 92k
That's 70% off players not checking out PoE2 0.2 because they weren't interested enough in such a "nerf nuke" patch.

PoE2 0.2 peak start - 245k
PoE2 0.2 peak now - 60k
That's 76% leaving in 4 weeks because the patch is not good, period.

And PoE1 probably has more players than PoE2.
Sure, the peak of the last league was only 229k compared to the 245k PoE2 0.2 has, BUT PoE1 does not include Chinese players as PoE2 does...

PoE1 grew from year to year, from league to league, while PoE2 was able to drop from a record high down to "Lake of Kalandra" in 5 months... good job.

Or maybe 35% out of the 70% wanted druid and didn't come back because he was not in it? Maybe the other 35% wanted their paladin and didn't come back because of that? Or maybe the whole 70% wanted some more meat at their end game and didn't come back because of it being the same? And maybe 76% that left after coming back might have stayed in spite of the nerfs if they had more stuff to do rather than doing the same things they were in 0.1? At the end of the day, i don't know, you don't know but my love for POE 1 and hate for POE 2 or vise versa won't make me pretend as if i do.

Also, i want to get one thing out since your replies to me make it seem as if you believe i say that 0.2 was/ is good. I agree it's severely lacking. I'm just able to find the positives instead of hopping on the blind hate train and the backbone of what i want from this game is still there.