Before POE2 was released everyone was dunking on D4 for being too easy

Everyone wanted a challenging game. Everyone openly admitted that the arpg genre had gotten too soft and we need a challenge. Now we are making threads saying that the devs are wrong and games that don't pose a challenge can still be good? Why not pack it up and go play D4 and leave this game for the people who refuse to play LE or D4 because it is too easy.

Now now before little timmy comes in and says the game isn't hard. It's just annoying and frustrating. Nope no challenge at all. This is a massive cope and if it were true then the following would not be true.

Why are there so many posts complaining they cannot get their 4th ascendancy?

Why are there so many posts complaining about 1 death maps and 10% xp loss?

Why are there so many posts about people stuck on act bosses in campaign?

Why are there so many posts about not getting enough attempts for pinnacle bosses?

Why are there so many emotional posts after someone dies to something and then they want whatever killed them removed from the game.

I can answer that question. It's because the game is challenging. If your build sucks and is not where it is supposed to be then the game will punish you. Now before little timmy speaks up and says there is no build diversity and you are 'forced' to play meta lightning spear. I'm clearing screens with bone shatter as smith of kitava on t16/17 juiced maps.

Thank you devs for making a game that makes you pay attention. A game that isn't a second monitor game where it takes 2 hours to 'blast' through campaign while watching a youtube video.

D4 and LE are there for you. It's everything you are demanding this game be turned into. Leave our game alone and go play the games that already exist that you are demanding. Geez imagine even thinking diablo 4 is a good game.

Game certainly isnt hard.

My complaint isnt that I cant get 4th ascendancy,
My complaint is that I cant get 4th ascendancy on melee only warrior using only warrior skills (roleplaying game remember).

Game is hard if you dont pick a meta lightning spear build.
And the oneshot spear bullshit for bosses.


Game isnt hard, its just absolutely borked in its numbers and balance.

no it's because peopIe comes from d4

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Henide#3803 wrote:

Game certainly isnt hard.

My complaint isnt that I cant get 4th ascendancy,
My complaint is that I cant get 4th ascendancy on melee only warrior using only warrior skills (roleplaying game remember).

Game is hard if you dont pick a meta lightning spear build.
And the oneshot spear bullshit for bosses.


Game isnt hard, its just absolutely borked in its numbers and balance.

If the game isn't hard then you should be able to get your 4th ascendancy. What you are saying doesn't make sense logically.

If the game is not hard then the game is easy. So if the game is easy then you should be able to do all content in the game without much effort.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

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Henide#3803 wrote:

Game certainly isnt hard.

My complaint isnt that I cant get 4th ascendancy,
My complaint is that I cant get 4th ascendancy on melee only warrior using only warrior skills (roleplaying game remember).

Game is hard if you dont pick a meta lightning spear build.
And the oneshot spear bullshit for bosses.


Game isnt hard, its just absolutely borked in its numbers and balance.

If the game isn't hard then you should be able to get your 4th ascendancy. What you are saying doesn't make sense logically.

If the game is not hard then the game is easy. So if the game is easy then you should be able to do all content in the game without much effort.

You're confusing difficulty with RNG-based frustration.

A difficult game is demanding, skill-based, and rewarding when you overcome its challenges. What we have here in PoE 2 is not that — it's a system where "difficulty" comes from randomness, not from mechanics or mastery.

You mention things like Ascendancy modifiers. That’s not hard — it’s pure RNG. Pick the worst possible maluses? It’s just frustrating. Pick the best bonuses with zero downsides? It’s a joke. That’s not challenge, that’s roulette.

Same with loot: someone finds a Mirror in Act 3 Cruel and steamrolls the game. Another player gets nothing, struggles through red maps, and just ends up annoyed, not challenged.

I'm in T10 maps right now with negative resistances, and guess what? I'm still managing just fine. That’s not difficulty — it’s just bad balance driven by randomness.

If you want a difficult game, make it mechanically demanding, not RNG-dependent. There's a big difference.

How are trials RNG based when I farm them 20 times in a row without dying?

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hboi#6131 wrote:

How are trials RNG based when I farm them 20 times in a row without dying?

You can accuse me of whatever you want, but the point I’m making is this: the game isn’t difficult — it’s unbalanced. And funny enough, you just proved it yourself. You said you don’t farm a level 75 Sekhema at level 75 — you do it much later, once you’re overgeared.

So even you admit that the so-called "difficult" content becomes trivial once RNG is on your side or you’ve grinded long enough.

That’s not skill. That’s patience, farming, and loot filtering — not mechanical difficulty.

When I say the game isn’t difficult, I’m comparing it to truly demanding games — where progression depends on player improvement, not on what the game randomly decides to give you. In PoE 2, players don’t progress because they learn — they progress because they finally looted the right item or simply waited long enough.

So no, I’m not claiming to be "better" or "smarter". I’m saying that what many are calling "difficulty" is actually just inconsistency and poor balance, amplified by an overreliance on RNG.

I'm not accusing you of anything. If the game isn't difficult then there should be no problem completing all content in the game without much effort.

People can phrase challenging as tedious, RNG based, or un fun mechanics. It's just blatant cope really.

It took me awhile to learn how to not die in the trials. It was challenging. Now I don't die in the trials. I have overcome the challenge. You can do it too if you give yourself enough time.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

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Henide#3803 wrote:

Game certainly isnt hard.

My complaint isnt that I cant get 4th ascendancy,
My complaint is that I cant get 4th ascendancy on melee only warrior using only warrior skills (roleplaying game remember).

Game is hard if you dont pick a meta lightning spear build.
And the oneshot spear bullshit for bosses.


Game isnt hard, its just absolutely borked in its numbers and balance.

If the game isn't hard then you should be able to get your 4th ascendancy. What you are saying doesn't make sense logically.

If the game is not hard then the game is easy. So if the game is easy then you should be able to do all content in the game without much effort.

Please read the rest of the post and think.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

I'm not accusing you of anything. If the game isn't difficult then there should be no problem completing all content in the game without much effort.

People can phrase challenging as tedious, RNG based, or un fun mechanics. It's just blatant cope really.

It took me awhile to learn how to not die in the trials. It was challenging. Now I don't die in the trials. I have overcome the challenge. You can do it too if you give yourself enough time.

"I'm not accusing you of anything. If the game isn't difficult then there should be no problem completing all content in the game without much effort."


wow look how hard it is to play poe2 to clear maps eh ???:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uID9wDrXolE


wow look how hard it is to play poe2 and kill final boss eh ???:
https://youtu.be/fn5ulkcFGj8?feature=shared&t=13


is this hard in your book ?


Like I said previously the difficulty selector in poe2 is at the char select screen, and that is the problem with the game currently. I dont see warriors with rolling slam killing bosses or clearing maps somehow...