Is everyone wrong about warstaff sockets?

Nope but you clearly are so let me in detail explain to you smooth brain.

DPS = damage per second
You say this example is a base of 250 with some random flat 50 from....where?
And because you said DPS you need to clarify attack speed and min-max damage of the weapon. Starting to see why your an idiot yet?

Than you take your "300" damage weapon and say it needs to be increased by 220% and proceed to do 320% in your math.

Do I need to continue? Sure I will.
As your STILL wide of the point almost all monks do CONVERSION and you failed at that math too. Like jesus man dont come sideways at anyone when your being so derpy my man.

lunaticwoda, Base damage means the basic stats of a normal item without mods, runes or quality and 50 is from added flat damage mod in the example.
You can read "xx pDPS" as "xx pDMG" in your context to not include attack speed which is not really necessary at that point.

Extra 100% to "220% increased" is the weapon's pDMG itself including added flat damage. If you don't add 100% to "+220% increased physical damage" on a weapon, you don't have the base damage to be increased.

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lunaticwoda#2453 wrote:

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auspexa#1404 wrote:

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lunaticwoda#2453 wrote:

And I even made that caveat the folks with like 700-1300 PHYS weapons yes would benifit from the Iron rune I dont dispute that. But again everyone always brings up edge cases. Like how many of those weapons are even in the game being used a dozen or 2 tops?

COMPLETELY wrong. iron rune becomes weaker if your wep has very high %phys roll

how are people so bad at math

Well smart guy go do the math and prove me wrong

Let's keep it simple, then:


3.98 / 3.58 = 1.112, or 11.2% more damage on a weapon with max rolls


2.8 / 2.4 = 1.167, or 16.7% more damage on a weapon with moderately high rolls


16.7 / 11.2 = 1.49, or nearly 50% more relative effect of the runes on weapons with lower phys rolls.

This is why we need a currency to remove socketed stuff.

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Duendecilla#2502 wrote:

This is why we need a currency to remove socketed stuff.

This is 100% right and im kinda surprised its not a thing, granted I could see them adding this in the future 100%

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lunaticwoda#2453 wrote:

Nope but you clearly are so let me in detail explain to you smooth brain.

DPS = damage per second
You say this example is a base of 250 with some random flat 50 from....where?
And because you said DPS you need to clarify attack speed and min-max damage of the weapon. Starting to see why your an idiot yet?

Than you take your "300" damage weapon and say it needs to be increased by 220% and proceed to do 320% in your math.

Do I need to continue? Sure I will.
As your STILL wide of the point almost all monks do CONVERSION and you failed at that math too. Like jesus man dont come sideways at anyone when your being so derpy my man.

random flat? it's a prefix you can roll...

attack speed is irrelevant for the calculations. you can just assume that the attack speed is 1.0. nothing will change if you use 2.0 instead

min-max damage are also irrelevant for this particular calculation because % rolls have the same effect on them. we would only need them for things like heft and ryslathas coil

220% increased means it's now at 320% of the base. if it was 50% increased, it would be at 150% of its base, you wouldn't multiply the base with 0.5. I don't even understand how you can be this clueless and this bad at maths

the conversion math isn't wrong either, but I'll explain why that is after you get a grasp of the more simple stuff first

everyone in the thread is trying to explain why your calculations are entirely wrong but you're still insisting

whatever

use your dogshit logic and keep playing with suboptimal builds, your loss

Why are people so angry? To me it is always situational.

Let's say someone plays a physical damage staff build. In this case elemental damage is useless, so we can ignore that scenario.

With an elemental damage staff, local physical damage would not have any to extremely little effect, so we can ignore this scenario as well.

That leaves only physical staff with conversion and staff more as a stat stick and added flat elemental damage from other sources, like the gloves that give lightning damage for int.

In both cases it is a balancing act. Because both, flat damage and increased damage have "diminishing returns". I don't know the English expression for this, but this will be some kind of "napkin math" just to demonstrate my train of thought.

If you have a 1000 damage staff but only 100% increased damage it would be 2000 damage.
If you have a 200 damage staff but 900% increased damage it would also be 2000 damage.
But if you have a 500 damage staff with 500% increased damage it would be 3000 damage.

So if you already have a large amount of flat elemental damage, adding increased elemental damage may be the better way. But if you have a lot of increased damage but low flat, adding more flat will be better.

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lunaticwoda#2453 wrote:

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Duendecilla#2502 wrote:

This is why we need a currency to remove socketed stuff.

This is 100% right and im kinda surprised its not a thing, granted I could see them adding this in the future 100%

+1