Why So Much Complaining on MF vs Resistances Or Other Stats?

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Digitalforce#0207 wrote:

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CPTBRUMBL3Z#3146 wrote:

MF is bad design. It needs to be integrated naturally into gameplay or drops should otherwise be balanced such that self finders can be self reliant. Every other stat is as classic as any other ARPG and is part of the grind to find the ones right for your needs and build. No one should feel compelled to build for MF or create a MF character just so they have a reasonable pace of upgrades and currency drops going into maps.

Doesn't the "classic" ARPG D2 have magic find to this day? Is it considered ruined? Not trying to be snarky, I guess I just don't get it. Currency should never be affected by MF, I think we can all agree on that.

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

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Digitalforce#0207 wrote:

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CPTBRUMBL3Z#3146 wrote:

MF is bad design. It needs to be integrated naturally into gameplay or drops should otherwise be balanced such that self finders can be self reliant. Every other stat is as classic as any other ARPG and is part of the grind to find the ones right for your needs and build. No one should feel compelled to build for MF or create a MF character just so they have a reasonable pace of upgrades and currency drops going into maps.

Doesn't the "classic" ARPG D2 have magic find to this day? Is it considered ruined? Not trying to be snarky, I guess I just don't get it. Currency should never be affected by MF, I think we can all agree on that.

Yes, D2 has it and the problem is many times greater there. Back in the day D2 didn't actually have any pinnacle bosses or anything so literally the only thing to do in the game was equip MF gear and kill 1 boss over and over because it was so much better than farming anywhere else, and then there was no point in using the gear cause your character was already finished. MF made the gear it found meaningless.

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Digitalforce#0207 wrote:

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Soleus7#5201 wrote:

This is the only ARPG on the market in which the "magic find" stat applies to raw currency drops. For example, in Diablo 2, MF applied to items, but it didn't apply to runes, the de-facto currency.

An argument could be made that MFing to produce more good items would help keep the price of good items lower.

An argument can be made that MFing to produce raw currency, particularly if there aren't any good currency sinks to destroy that currency (attractive high-end crafting), will cause currency inflation and make everything outrageously priced for the average gamer.

You could argue that the two should off-set each other -- there's more currency but there are also more good items, but that argument assumes that players are picking up and identifying all those good items.

Why not just have MF affect equipment drops and not currency. That seem fair?

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Digitalforce#0207 wrote:

Yep, I am 100% for MF just adding to more and better gear, not more currency. We can agree on that.

I am just scratching my head that so many are complaining about MF as a stat vs babysitting every type of resist and you keep getting more penalties as you progress. Do most of you complaining about MF really find resist penalties and finding those stats on gear "fun and rewarding?" Or even light radius, or anything else besides MF that we could trim.

I am all for "resist all" as a stat but having to get the max for each type of damage is stupid IMHO

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Digitalforce#0207 wrote:

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CPTBRUMBL3Z#3146 wrote:

MF is bad design. It needs to be integrated naturally into gameplay or drops should otherwise be balanced such that self finders can be self reliant. Every other stat is as classic as any other ARPG and is part of the grind to find the ones right for your needs and build. No one should feel compelled to build for MF or create a MF character just so they have a reasonable pace of upgrades and currency drops going into maps.

Doesn't the "classic" ARPG D2 have magic find to this day? Is it considered ruined? Not trying to be snarky, I guess I just don't get it. Currency should never be affected by MF, I think we can all agree on that.