"
So glad I could bait a bunch of my friends and family to play PoE2. Literal fresh blood to your company.
And then you pull this, thanks a lot for that. Not only do you make yourself's look like a bunch of amateurs. You now made me look like one as well for recommending you.
I'll be forced to keep playing when they all want too. But I will no longer spend any money on your product going forward. If it was not for me recommending and getting them all to spend money. I would uninstall over this change. This has to be one of the biggest knee jerk, and completely non thought out balance changes I have seen in 30 years of online gaming. So congratulations on that I guess
Request refund and just leave it, they dont respect your or anyones time.
|
Posted byFlight012#0360on Dec 12, 2024, 7:46:55 AM
|
"
Jesus people, just calm down... It's not even a week of EA that should last like 6 months. There will be a lot of changes, some better, some worse. I have no doubt that this will be addressed in future patches alongside of respec prices...
Changes are fine and necessary. But you cant go from white mob freeze gives 20-25% to white mob freeze gives 3-5%. That's a nerf down to 25% of its previous state for clearing, out of nowhere. Go step by step if its too "strong", so players can adjust.
Sure, it triggers more often for bosses now. But that wasn't the issue at all.
I dont have the time to play all day. I didnt even watch any PoE2 content, just looked at the skills and this potential combo looked fine.
Now again, every pack is a struggle if you cant freeze and coldsnap them in time. Was so happy when i finally unlocked Comet last night. It was so much fun to destroy these mob packs, only to wake up this morning and it being made useless for packs.
Why wasn't a 15-20% nerf enough for now? Why nerf it for what feels like 75%?
|
Posted byBasti1910#5268on Dec 12, 2024, 7:47:44 AM
|
"
I get 'Cast on Freeze/Ignite/Shock' being much slower to build energy for, but Cast on Crit? Cast on Crit is a much heavier investment in terms of points and gear and I get about 0.1% per crit on white mobs currently if even that.
I should mention I am an invoker monk that has fully specced into Trigger generation.
Cast on Crit is unplayable as it is right now while Cast on Freeze/Ignite/Shock still somewhat works althouh nerfed. This makes no sense since, again, Cast on Crit requires a lot more investment to play, not only from a Crit chance perspective but also from a spirit perspective.
I would highly advise you guys to try out Cast on Crit with different spells and compare it to the ailment ones and see how any of this makes sense since again, you have to have more of everything to make crit work.
The way you have designed combat and damage currently (I am in maps yes) is so that none of the caster spells deal damage except for Comet as a frost caster.
I have a +6 staff with % dmg modifiers on it along with an amulet that has +2 to all spells. I still do nothing to white mobs basically without a comet proc.
Combined spell level is 22 as of right now and I have to cast about 3-5 Eye of Winters to kill *white mobs* in *lower tier maps* and after I've done that there's no comet proc even most of the time.
Seriously, I am not kidding. I'm sure you can find my account if you are curious about my dmg stats, have a look.
This is probably the most sensible post on the thread. Someone who has experimented with most elemental spells and knows absolutely well that 80% of them deal damage equal to that of a level 40 monk. I am currently at level 74 and I cannot get any of my spells above 2k-3k sheet DPS. A friend who plays, at level 50~ 10k+ DPS on skills. Same thing here - 40% Cold + 50% Spell + +4 to Cold and I equip Eye of Winter to see the damage of a level 20-30 Deadeye? It is pretty absurd... Level 20 Eye of Winter sitting at 169 sheet DPS with no suports is miserable...
Equipping level 15 Arc, no supports -> 617 DPS? Supposedely higher tier skill + 5 levels on top of a SPELL SKILL GEM (expected to scale with levels mostly having in mind weapon damage is not a factor for casters), yet the damage is not comparable at all. Even if the skill is supposed to have some other utility, it is plain ridicilous.
Hopefully if these changes are not reverted, at least make elemental spells viable/playable for at least act 1 cruel.
|
Posted bymsnoiztv#2333on Dec 12, 2024, 7:47:59 AM
|
"
If i was GGG i'd just temporarily revoke access to all the complainers until full release.
Criticism is fine but if you dont understand what the purpose of a beta is then you are just a detriment to the development of the game anyway.
Im not against passive point refunds but i also think that if you abuse some obviously broken mechanics that are multiple times stronger than everything else you dont really deserve one.
if you think COF was broken you are funny.
|
Posted byFlight012#0360on Dec 12, 2024, 7:48:33 AM
|
"
"
If i was GGG i'd just temporarily revoke access to all the complainers until full release.
Criticism is fine but if you dont understand what the purpose of a beta is then you are just a detriment to the development of the game anyway.
Im not against passive point refunds but i also think that if you abuse some obviously broken mechanics that are multiple times stronger than everything else you dont really deserve one.
if you think COF was broken you are funny.
Yall tears here are the best prove it actually WAS!
Auctioneer House - is a MUST!
'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313
|
Posted bySilverWF#6383on Dec 12, 2024, 7:51:26 AM
|
"
"
"
If i was GGG i'd just temporarily revoke access to all the complainers until full release.
Criticism is fine but if you dont understand what the purpose of a beta is then you are just a detriment to the development of the game anyway.
Im not against passive point refunds but i also think that if you abuse some obviously broken mechanics that are multiple times stronger than everything else you dont really deserve one.
if you think COF was broken you are funny.
Yall tears here are the best prove it actually WAS!
No ill just go play my battlecry build that one shots bosses.
|
Posted byFlight012#0360on Dec 12, 2024, 7:52:02 AM
|
"
Changes are fine and necessary. But you cant go from white mob freeze gives 20-25% to white mob freeze gives 3-5%. That's a nerf down to 25% of its previous state for clearing, out of nowhere. Go step by step if its too "strong", so players can adjust.
Sure, it triggers more often for bosses now. But that wasn't the issue at all.
I dont have the time to play all day. I didnt even watch any PoE2 content, just looked at the skills and this potential combo looked fine.
Now again, every pack is a struggle if you cant freeze and coldsnap them in time. Was so happy when i finally unlocked Comet last night. It was so much fun to destroy these mob packs, only to wake up this morning and it being made useless for packs.
Why wasn't a 15-20% nerf enough for now? Why nerf it for what feels like 75%?
And now, when a lot of feedback is provided, I have no doubt it will be changed once again. There is no need for all this gloom and doom.
|
Posted byLinus04#1705on Dec 12, 2024, 7:52:44 AM
|
"
If i was GGG i'd just temporarily revoke access to all the complainers until full release.
Criticism is fine but if you dont understand what the purpose of a beta is then you are just a detriment to the development of the game anyway.
Im not against passive point refunds but i also think that if you abuse some obviously broken mechanics that are multiple times stronger than everything else you dont really deserve one.
Paying customers should have their product taken away cause they went for optimal at the time build and are unhappy something they dropped dozens of hours into doesn't work anymore and now they are also stranded cause respec is too expensive?
With a lot of them understanding nerf was needed and just providig EXACTLY why this is overnerf and possible solutions to make this skill work in healthier way?
Gee, good thing u are not GGG then. Cause imagine customer goodwill being a thing.
|
|
"
So glad I could bait a bunch of my friends and family to play PoE2. Literal fresh blood to your company.
And then you pull this, thanks a lot for that. Not only do you make yourself's look like a bunch of amateurs. You now made me look like one as well for recommending you.
I'll be forced to keep playing when they all want too. But I will no longer spend any money on your product going forward. If it was not for me recommending and getting them all to spend money. I would uninstall over this change. This has to be one of the biggest knee jerk, and completely non thought out balance changes I have seen in 30 years of online gaming. So congratulations on that I guess
How old are you again? :D
|
Posted byhyouro#7894on Dec 12, 2024, 7:53:03 AM
|
|
Nerf of Exile.
Now I hardly gain any energy, my ice activators don’t trigger, and my character has become absolutely useless.
The best part? I can’t even change it because they’re asking for obscene amounts of gold. (to undo the build)
What is this?
If the excuse of being early access is going to be used (even though that excuse doesn’t matter when charging), then let that excuse be used to make skill tree respecs cost ZERO. (At least in these initial phases where they mistreat us like laboratory rats)
|
Posted byRiwer#7174on Dec 12, 2024, 7:53:06 AM
|
