Very nice Build, i am gonne try this one i think.
Could you maybe get us an Build on Maxroll? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/
Might give an overall better overview of your build.
Thanks
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Posted byAbgeloust#2847on Dec 14, 2024, 6:07:49 PM
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I'm also was sure call of brotherhood doesn't. So, I've decided to verify it.
Took a chaos spell. Made sure I don't do any cold/lightning damage with it.
Went to low level mobs.
Archmage | Call Of BrotherHood | Freezing | Shocking
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Freezing Archmage build is a lie, don't use it boys.
For some reason the message is formatted differently, can't fix it.
I don't understand your tab.
You are trying to check if Archmage Shock or Freeze?
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Posted bywacb48#5065on Dec 14, 2024, 6:09:35 PM
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I'm also was sure call of brotherhood doesn't. So, I've decided to verify it.
Took a chaos spell. Made sure I don't do any cold/lightning damage with it.
Went to low level mobs.
Archmage | Call Of BrotherHood | Freezing | Shocking
- | - | - | -
+ | - | - | +
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Freezing Archmage build is a lie, don't use it boys.
For some reason the message is formatted differently, can't fix it.
Darn, but I guess that makes sense. Too bad I didn't see this before I bought the ring lol. By the way, in case anyone was wondering, it also looks like can't shock with Three Dragons helmet and "All Damage contributes to Shock" ascendancy I guess because it is still "lightning damage contributing to shock". I was so excited to get my fourth ascendancy for that reason, or use Call of Brotherhood ring if it didn't work. Unfortunately both don't work!
Maybe I will drop the chill stuff and try elemental storm?
Also also, if yall didn't know, Everlasting Gaze amulet + Eldritch Battery is really good for Archmage for a similar reason why Call of Brotherhood doesn't work. The gain as extra ES from the amulet isn't converted into mana, so you can convert your base ES into mana, then gain the extra ES which benefits from tree passives!
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Posted byHHalation#1325on Dec 14, 2024, 6:18:44 PM
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I'm also was sure call of brotherhood doesn't. So, I've decided to verify it.
Took a chaos spell. Made sure I don't do any cold/lightning damage with it.
Went to low level mobs.
Archmage | Call Of BrotherHood | Freezing | Shocking
- | - | - | -
+ | - | - | +
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Freezing Archmage build is a lie, don't use it boys.
For some reason the message is formatted differently, can't fix it.
I don't understand your tab.
You are trying to check if Archmage Shock or Freeze?
I'm trying to say call of brotherhood doesn't convert arhmage damage. Because you are buffing frost damage and debuffing resists to frost damage - archmage damage is gimped.
You still can take node "all damage can freeze" as lightning sorc.
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Posted bytsyt#0308on Dec 14, 2024, 6:25:40 PM
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Darn, but I guess that makes sense. Too bad I didn't see this before I bought the ring lol. By the way, in case anyone was wondering, it also looks like can't shock with Three Dragons helmet and "All Damage contributes to Shock" ascendancy I guess because it is still "lightning damage contributing to shock". I was so excited to get my fourth ascendancy for that reason, or use Call of Brotherhood ring if it didn't work. Unfortunately both don't work!
Maybe I will drop the chill stuff and try elemental storm?
Also also, if yall didn't know, Everlasting Gaze amulet + Eldritch Battery is really good for Archmage for a similar reason why Call of Brotherhood doesn't work. The gain as extra ES from the amulet isn't converted into mana, so you can convert your base ES into mana, then gain the extra ES which benefits from tree passives!
I'm trying to figure out what don't work with Call of Brotherhood : the convertion to cold of the 5% lightning dommage Archmage offer?
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Posted bywacb48#5065on Dec 14, 2024, 6:27:36 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what don't work with Call of Brotherhood : the convertion to cold of the 5% lightning dommage Archmage offer?
Yeah, the conversion to cold for Archmage damage doesn't work. So your damage ends being split up between cold and lightning depending on how much Archmage buff you have. As a result you cant maximize damage with exposure, for example, because it will only strengthen either the cold or lightning portion (unless you apply both cold and lightning exposure, which is too inefficient I think)
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Posted byHHalation#1325on Dec 14, 2024, 6:31:34 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what don't work with Call of Brotherhood : the convertion to cold of the 5% lightning dommage Archmage offer?
Yeah, the conversion to cold for Archmage damage doesn't work. So your damage ends being split up between cold and lightning depending on how much Archmage buff you have. As a result you cant maximize damage with exposure, for example, because it will only strengthen either the cold or lightning portion (unless you apply both cold and lightning exposure, which is too inefficient I think)
Ok thanks you for testing it. Understanding the exposure problem create by that.
But why dont that non converted lightning dommage dont shock? I only see some freeze build up no shocked effet? (I'm noob : is there a one ailment limit by mob?)
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Posted bywacb48#5065on Dec 14, 2024, 6:39:15 PM
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But why dont that non converted lightning dommage dont shock? I only see some freeze build up no shocked effet? (I'm noob : is there a one ailment limit by mob?)
Shock is applied differently from freeze/chill. Shock has a chance to be applied based on how much damage you did, instead of accumulating like freeze. So if you don't do a lot of damage, there is less chance to shock. So I guess you aren't doing enough damage to have good shock chance? I would recommend reading the tooltips in game because it is explained there.
Also, I didn't do the testing for Archmage so thank the other guy!
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Posted byHHalation#1325on Dec 14, 2024, 6:43:36 PM
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I have a level 22 Spark but my damage numbers says 2766, what am I doing wrong?
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Posted byTinfoilguy#9942on Dec 14, 2024, 6:59:02 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what don't work with Call of Brotherhood : the convertion to cold of the 5% lightning dommage Archmage offer?
Yeah, the conversion to cold for Archmage damage doesn't work. So your damage ends being split up between cold and lightning depending on how much Archmage buff you have. As a result you cant maximize damage with exposure, for example, because it will only strengthen either the cold or lightning portion (unless you apply both cold and lightning exposure, which is too inefficient I think)
Thanks guys (and tsyt for testing it out!). Seems like brotherhood ring won't work with archmage and is only good for a CoF setup, which itself is pretty crap compared to archmage. I'll update the guide to reflect this.
My question is if we're running the three dragons, how do we proc lightning exposure if the 4th ascewndancy doesn't work? And if we can't, it might be better moving back to pure lightning and trying to proc eletrocution + shock syphon instead...
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 14, 2024, 9:26:36 PM
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