I am out. I want to like it so much - but it's just too hard to be fun.

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InsanityClouds#9303 wrote:

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I C3notaph I#8820 wrote:

Put to one side the endless crashes. It's just too hard for me anyway. I am not a tryhard, just a guy who wants a fun game. This is not it.

I am giving up on a game for the first time in a long while. Dying over and over to the same boss over and over is just not a good use of my time.

Congrats to those who are enjoying it - can't see how GGG are going to make money on this - the playerbase will just die out in the next two weeks.

It sucks that you've had that experience. There's a lot of knowledge required to make even the campaign play like GGG intends. Most of the seasoned community don't realize how valuable their experience and knowledge is, so they can't understand your perspective.

You can be running around doing 15% of the DPS and have half defenses you need without even realizing it. Maybe they can add an NPC to each town that looks at your stats and makes a comment about your strength when you talk to them. "It looks like your defense is good, but you'll never make it with that offense." "You're too weak to make it here." "Not much will be giving you trouble will it?"

Additionally, I think a lot of new players aren't using the trade website. It's pretty much mandatory unless you really know what you're doing. I've played I think 5 characters through the campaign and all of them got enough exalted orbs to go snag 4-5 pieces of gear from the trade site.

I agree with your sentiment on new player retention. If GGG intends to keep a substantial percentage of first time players, they'll need to find some way to communicate expectations and/or make some changes to the game design. Here's to hoping that's the direction they go in. Adding an in-game browser for the trade site would be huge.

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I C3notaph I#8820 wrote:

Or get this ...

perhaps you can stop white knighting the game
or or
get this
just perhaps the game is .... flawed..
like you know it isnt the players fault the game is broken.

Like you know just perhaps .. it isnt the player..
like they can have a puppet in the GGG loby the devs can go to ...
and it can tell them .... your end game is shit...

or
I know
a speaker by the water cooler that says .... trials are cancer , trials are cancer...

or wait I know ... a 20 foot sign outside that says ....
loot drops in arpg's....
cause you know 80% of players gone and every streamer checked out..yeah game is in a great place.