POE 2 Complete PC Freeze while loading screen

For anyone that thinks rollback is the solution:
Rollback does not solve anything by itself. If it was a solution then everyone who have rolled back would have started playing without getting PC-bricking hard crashes.

For anyone that thinks "Windows 11 is a common denominator" argument is logical:
The game crashes on Windows 10 22H2, Windows 11 24H2, Windows 11 23H2, and Linux. The only reason you see more Windows 11 24H2s is because more people are using that OS.

Similarly a common denominator among the PCs that crash is that their users often breathe. Is your breathing the cause behind the hard crashes? This is how you sound to someone who knows statistics when you claim this is a Windows 11 24H2 issue.

We can argue all day long. In the end the only ones to know what is happening is GGG. As GGG's paying customers GGG should have been communicating with us, but they are not. In fact instead GGG attempts to muddy the waters by using misleading language, which we saw at the 3 hour long Q&A stream where they acted as if the only crashes were crashes to desktop (and blamed NVIDIA for it); which we saw on the very first week when they blamed Windows 11 24H2 despite the fact that at that time we knew it had nothing to do with these crashes.

Dear GGG, Enough is enough.

We-as paying customers- have the right to know:

1) What went wrong?

2) What you are doing to fix it?

3) What possible causes have you eliminated as the source of the problem?

4) What triggers have you discovered that starts the resource hog loop other than "zone change"? (This one is really important because it allows players to create workarounds)

5) What is your estimated time of fix?

6) How did this sort of bug managed to avoid detection in your testing period?

7) What you will be doing to compensate players that have been affected by this issue?

8) Whether refunds would be made available for those that are no longer interested in playing the game?

To other paying customers like me who have spent their money on this faulty product:

As long as GGG is not interested in open communication our only other option is to increase the pressure and warn others by giving a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam in a detailed and informative manner.
I cannot send/reply to direct messages because my in-game character has not finished Act 1.
What to do:
1)Write a short review about the hard crashes in notepad.
2)Copy and paste it to steam reviews, put up a negative review.
3)Copy and paste it to steam discussions, put it up there.
For anyone that thinks rollback is the solution:
Rollback does not solve anything by itself. If it was a solution then everyone who have rolled back would have started playing without getting PC-bricking hard crashes.

For anyone that thinks "Windows 11 is a common denominator" argument is logical:
The game crashes on Windows 10 22H2, Windows 11 24H2, Windows 11 23H2, and Linux. The only reason you see more Windows 11 24H2s is because more people are using that OS.

Similarly a common denominator among the PCs that crash is that their users often breathe. Is your breathing the cause behind the hard crashes? This is how you sound to someone who knows statistics when you claim this is a Windows 11 24H2 issue.

We can argue all day long. In the end the only ones to know what is happening is GGG. As GGG's paying customers GGG should have been communicating with us, but they are not. In fact instead GGG attempts to muddy the waters by using misleading language, which we saw at the 3 hour long Q&A stream where they acted as if the only crashes were crashes to desktop (and blamed NVIDIA for it); which we saw on the very first week when they blamed Windows 11 24H2 despite the fact that at that time we knew it had nothing to do with these crashes.

Dear GGG, Enough is enough.

We-as paying customers- have the right to know:

1) What went wrong?

2) What you are doing to fix it?

3) What possible causes have you eliminated as the source of the problem?

4) What triggers have you discovered that starts the resource hog loop other than "zone change"? (This one is really important because it allows players to create workarounds)

5) What is your estimated time of fix?

6) How did this sort of bug managed to avoid detection in your testing period?

7) What you will be doing to compensate players that have been affected by this issue?

8) Whether refunds would be made available for those that are no longer interested in playing the game?

To other paying customers like me who have spent their money on this faulty product:

As long as GGG is not interested in open communication our only other option is to increase the pressure and warn others by giving a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam in a detailed and informative manner.
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I think I know the cause of the problem. I installed the game from the official POE website, and it ran perfectly. Then I uninstalled it and installed it via STEAM... the game constantly froze my system. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the POE website, and now the game works flawlessly again, without a single system freeze!

I hope someone from support is reading this.
For diagnosing the issue and pointing out the cause, I expect GGG to reward me with a train full of golden honey!

For people experiencing complete Windows system freezes, check if downloading the game directly from GGG might solve the problem.



I'm trying this, i'll let you know
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Tdk085#7019 wrote:
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I think I know the cause of the problem. I installed the game from the official POE website, and it ran perfectly. Then I uninstalled it and installed it via STEAM... the game constantly froze my system. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the POE website, and now the game works flawlessly again, without a single system freeze!

I hope someone from support is reading this.
For diagnosing the issue and pointing out the cause, I expect GGG to reward me with a train full of golden honey!

For people experiencing complete Windows system freezes, check if downloading the game directly from GGG might solve the problem.



I'm trying this, i'll let you know


I remember that we tried this around the 10th day or so... It did not work. You can find the posts about it on here or the other hard crash thread.

Honestly speaking a pinned/stickied post about all the non-working workarounds would be really nice but that would be communication and GGG does not like it.

As long as GGG is not interested in open communication our only other option is to increase the pressure and warn others by giving a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam in a detailed and informative manner.
I cannot send/reply to direct messages because my in-game character has not finished Act 1.
What to do:
1)Write a short review about the hard crashes in notepad.
2)Copy and paste it to steam reviews, put up a negative review.
3)Copy and paste it to steam discussions, put it up there.
"
Theowyn#6369 wrote:
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I think I know the cause of the problem. I installed the game from the official POE website, and it ran perfectly. Then I uninstalled it and installed it via STEAM... the game constantly froze my system. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the POE website, and now the game works flawlessly again, without a single system freeze!

I hope someone from support is reading this.
For diagnosing the issue and pointing out the cause, I expect GGG to reward me with a train full of golden honey!

For people experiencing complete Windows system freezes, check if downloading the game directly from GGG might solve the problem.



has anyone tried it? im downloading from the website right now to see


Doesn't work, I just restarted my PC after my 1st login into Win client.
Tried and downloaded the game from their own launcher, first loading screen I get after selecting the character it freezes my pc, like it has been doing for few weeks now when launched from Steam as well...

Game is literally unplayable at the moment.
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This is also happening to me after patch 0.1.1. PC will freeze during loading screen every few hours. It doesn't crash but since my pc is unresponsive I can only press the power button to reset it.


Same situation.
No update on this, huh? I've not even tried to play for three weeks now according to Steam (Jan 4), and clocked less than 14 hours in total since launch of EA due to the issue -- one of the hard crashes lead to a minor RGB driver corruption, which in itself wasn't a big issue, but just made me rather anxious about more substantial problems potentially arising from these entire OS freezes. It's a real shame, but even the CPU core workaround wasn't viable for me, as it lead to an immediately notable increase in crash frequency, etc.

Of all the dodgy experiences I've had with EA games across the years, I would never have predicted that PoE2 would be the first genuine occasion where one persistent issue would render a game completely unplayable for such a length of time.

Will check back next month, I guess.
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Xypha#3760 wrote:
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Ramymn#7254 wrote:


i have to test this to see if the game would be able to create a crash file during the freeze or nothing at all, because in the loading freeze is not really a complete PC lock you can still can move your mouse (really sluggish) and num lock light on keyboard would react (really slow too) you just can't close the game or alt-tab or even open task manager that's why you have to hard reset.


reading around sites, i have frequently read that this freeze type, where sound will either loop or keep playing normally and the mouse still moves but otherwise your frozen with no way out but a reset is typically caused by a resource conflict violation. its hard to quantify things cuz well you know, no logs, but, watching twitch or YouTube on a second monitor increases the likelihood a freeze will occur {at least seemingly), specifically with hardware acceleration off. when it first started occurring in poe 1 before poe 2 launched but after a small patch along with 24h2 for me, the first thing i thought it was was my browser having a mem leak or the GPU shitting itself,so i turned off HW acceleration it was the first thing i tried that did make some difference. but who knows, but i stand strongly that this is not just a poe1/2 thing entirely there is something else, just that poe for whatever reason is really good at hitting the issue.

the most annoying thing is that there is no error log, no memory dump, it cant do it while frozen even in this type, i tried 3rd party tools even to get a log of anything to generate but i juts couldn't get anything, except for 2 occasions where the game itself froze and then closed exception code in kernelbase.dll 0xe0000001, so its so difficult to diagnose and the only things I've caught happening are live things right before, if i was watching close enough, such as procmon showing unpacking errors for shaders, or that before the load screen it would freeze both poe 1 and 2 would feel 'sluggish' and i would say to housemate, watch its about to freeze, hit the portal bam frozen. i sat with a full screen of every sensor on a second monitor with hwinfo, no temp was over 70, ram barely 50%, GPU at 70 98% use, CPU sitting comfy, but the freeze in game, always had a maxed drive (nvme) read rate, maxed CPU, maxed shaders processing, but, poe has always done that during a load, nothing looks different.

I honestly thought it was my pc dieing until i tried in 22h2 win10 to work perfectly but taking the upgrade back to 24h2 to see if it starts again. was instant first load. Ive clean installed after null bit wipe of all drives with 0 overclocks on anything and a brand new flashed bios, memtest left running overnight, drive checks, , prime 95 full torture test, cpu sits comfy at 75 no freeze through any of that, there is a singular fault, a usb for the yeti mic shows a fault, the usb is loose from getting knocked on the boom arm, still functions but there is a small fault, so removed it and did all of it again just to be sure. i have even done an install of windows with near everything except what you need to run the game stripped out of it, still crashes.


Yea i don't think is really related to people hardware/windows as much, but rather a code compatibility problem specially related to engine multi-threading, because it's been a problem ever since they updated their particle engine code, my best guess is the code related to engine multi-thread and resources management within the threads that leads to application lock because is not freeing the resources during the loading screen or once it's finish and leading to this CPU hostage lock scenario, just a guess but is a good spot to start looking there for a fix.
I have < 30 minutes of play according to Steam. But all I’ve been able to do is watch the intro movie (which looked terrible), skipped to the choose my character, crawl under stage & then it locks. Now upon the 3 gears loading screen upon launch it locks.

I just had a motherboard replacement. I wiped my PC & loaded completely as new. Fresh everything. All other games run flawlessly. I don’t know what to do other than request refund?

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