POE 2 Key Regional Pricing on steam change

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BigJoe1981#4119 wrote:

GGG does not have to have regional pricing because the game with F2P. If you cannot afford the $XX supporter pack that is ok and you can play for free, However at the end of the day the company needs to make $$$$ and if they can make more by not having regional pricing they are going to.

Sometimes it is best for the company to stay quiet and honestly this is one of those times, because there is nothing they can say that will not start a firestorm on the internet.

Take it for what it is. Some countries have it, some had it for a day or two and some do not get it, end of story.

Stop defending a company that does not care about your existence, no matter how much money you've thrown at it. The truth is that they had regional pricing for some, then stealthily removed it for most, and now ignore a huge portion of their playerbase that is supposed to pau first world prices with third world wages.

They did something very scummy and those actions should bother their most staunch supporters the most. It's not about FOMO, it's about wanting to support a company when that support is warranted, and the opposite when they disrespect its consumers. It would be great to have a pro-consumer, transparent company behind these awesome games, and not what we get with GGG.

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WizardofVoid#5398 wrote:

You need certain stash tabs to play the game efficiently. If they've been playing for years and couldn't spend $30, then their priority in life shouldn't be getting a supporter pack with regional pricing. Take someone that's been playing for 3 years for instance. Less than a dollar a month should be possible but sure... They just wanted to support™ the game, right?

I think there's a bit of a difference between spending a bit of cash on things like stash tabs, and buying a supporter pack, which is typically more expensive and whose main selling point lies in cosmetics.

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WizardofVoid#5398 wrote:

You can buy a pack every other league or even once a year or once every 10 years but again, sure...

You're missing the point because you're still looking at things in a vacuum. It's not about what people CAN spend, or whether they can save up for something, it's what people are willing to spend and how much value they perceive when there are other games or products competing for that purchase. Believe it or not, but spending money on cosmetic supporter packs might not rank that highly for most people when you're paying the price of a new game for some of the lowest tiers, a price point which can feel more egregious when you're in a region where the average person has less purchasing power. Regional pricing can make it feel much more manageable and attractive, and can tip the scales of a purchase from feeling unreasonable, to feeling more attractive.

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WizardofVoid#5398 wrote:

GGG must have missed that part. Good thing you reminded them.

Ah yes, sarcasm. The low hanging fruit for people who have nothing better to add to a discussion.

Look, I and others on here are just giving feedback to GGG, which is part of the intention and functionality of the forum. Whether or not GGG decides to take that feedback into consideration or to dismiss it is their choice. But being dismissive on their behalf is not helpful, and it's certainly not going to stop people from speaking their minds.

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WizardofVoid#5398 wrote:

Only GGG knows how many players are there from those regions and their customer behavior.

If they specifically changed some regions and didn't do so for others, then it would have to be intentional. You are free to speculate that as there wasn't much to be gained from those regions, if you want.

That's the thing though. They had regional pricing for a lot of regions (my own included), then suddenly redacted it. Some people say it's because players were trying to take advantage of VPNs to get lower prices. While that is a valid concern for the website pricing, Steam already has safeguards to prevent that kind of behavior (e.g. you need to have a payment method tied to an address in your country, and you can only change your region once every 3 months).

Honestly, given that they had regional pricing and then removed it, my guess is that it was a knee jerk reaction on their part. However, as you said, that is just speculation. With that in mind, what would have been better than you or I speculating on the matter (which is a futile effort) is if GGG just made an announcement and gave their reasoning, even if it means the prices still remain the same. I'd feel much better knowing cause, and I wouldn't have to speculate anymore.

I'll repeat it. Resources are limited. Bandwidth and energy do not have regional pricing. They are going to have huge server issues and login queues in the EA. Why should you add to these troubles when you didn't even pay the same prices? Not even bringing up the other moral issues with charging people differently for the same product.

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AnimePillowCollector#2255 wrote:

I'll repeat it. Resources are limited. Bandwidth and energy do not have regional pricing. They are going to have huge server issues and login queues in the EA. Why should you add to these troubles when you didn't even pay the same prices? Not even bringing up the other moral issues with charging people differently for the same product.

What kind of logic is that? So people without supporter packs should never be able to play new leagues, bc you know, they didn't pay money so all that extra energy spent on servers is not payed, oh and don't forget the lucky regions with regional pricing they didn't pay the same money so thats not moral, better not let them in the servers for a while, yeah good way of thinking.

One would think poe players use their brain, but it's really not the case for most it seems.

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AnimePillowCollector#2255 wrote:

I'll repeat it. Resources are limited. Bandwidth and energy do not have regional pricing. They are going to have huge server issues and login queues in the EA. Why should you add to these troubles when you didn't even pay the same prices? Not even bringing up the other moral issues with charging people differently for the same product.

How have you not yet understood that POE has always had regional pricing. You pay more in the US than a Brazilian, Russian, etc. (as it should be for those economies). People are upset that GGG removed regional pricing on Steam for many countries, and without saying a word. It feels like a slap in the face to pay twice as much as someone else because GGG made a mistake it refuses to elaborate on. This is one of many scummy moves from them this past week.

2 quick questions... does anyone know when there will be a crossover version? Also if you didn't buy your early access key on Steam can you download the game on steam as that runs on CrossOVer. Sorry trying to play early access on Mac.

Thanks

18k views and not a word from GGG. Bump to remind people that they're as soulless a company as any.

There is a high chance the EA will get pirated, the idea of paying for EA is already pretty bad to me, if you wanted to make a free game, just make it free from the start, it shows signs of greed and potential downfall like what happens with a few of the other ARPGs.

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Terspet#0706 wrote:

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ElectroStatic#2433 wrote:

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Terspet#0706 wrote:

may i just ask why it is so important to some of you to get regional prices? why do i have to pay atleast 30$ for early acces, and you guys start drama because you cant nolonger get it for 15$?
and dont give me this bs excuse that you live in a third world country, you have a decent enough pc to play poe AND internet, if it is to expensive for you right now, save up some money and buy it later or wait untill the game is released because its f2p then

You don't offer something for a cheaper price and then take it away on the verge of pay day without reason, its in poor taste number one.

Secondly, I am from a third world nation, and I work two jobs and probably do it better than most people in first world nations doing the same, while having no benefits or protection from labour abuse, and it is rampant, and all that while working longer hours and earning 1/6 what some one in a first world nations earns just working one of my jobs.

So it is as a matter of fucking fact, a big deal.

so by that logic as you are such a harder worker, you just buy as many early acces keys for 15$ and then resell them for 25$ , so you can make a profit, i see i see, make yourself look pity online for sadness points and then get greedy once it works, i wounder though, how have you time to play games with 2 jobs? why dont you just get visa in another, lets say first world country, if you are so sure you do a better job , i seriously wounder

You completely ignore people's circumstances with this opinion, even going so far as to say someone is doing something shady, how can we be sure its not you?

May we need to remind you that there is still countries that does have regional pricing, like Russia, which makes no sense if you can also just do this in those places, they go for up to 50% less.

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AnimePillowCollector#2255 wrote:

I'll repeat it. Resources are limited. Bandwidth and energy do not have regional pricing. They are going to have huge server issues and login queues in the EA. Why should you add to these troubles when you didn't even pay the same prices? Not even bringing up the other moral issues with charging people differently for the same product.

If that was a problem, they shouldn't be making a free game.