Alternate game mode for casual gamers

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RitualMurder wrote:

50c is literally nothing i can farm 500c in 1 day on ssf with ease using expedition and blight. On trade you should be able to triple that with little effort and a few trades.
again it sounds like your build is horrifically squishy if you are dying this much and needs to be adjusted. When i want to level i swap around a few points swap and gems and am much more careful with mods i put on maps its really not that hard.
Sounds like you just dont want to try.


Your assumption is ... extremely on point.

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Mash the clean
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Mashgesture wrote:
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RitualMurder wrote:

50c is literally nothing i can farm 500c in 1 day on ssf with ease using expedition and blight. On trade you should be able to triple that with little effort and a few trades.
again it sounds like your build is horrifically squishy if you are dying this much and needs to be adjusted. When i want to level i swap around a few points swap and gems and am much more careful with mods i put on maps its really not that hard.
Sounds like you just dont want to try.


Your assumption is ... extremely on point.

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is that really the pob for the character hes complaining about dying a lot on?
lmfao ok i think I'm done trying to explain anything to this person then.

Thats laughable.

my EHP is 10x that and im not even on my leveling setup
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Last edited by RitualMurder on Oct 4, 2024, 3:09:48 PM
No need to post pob screenshots of people's characters lol, this thread isn't discussing any of that, its simply about how harshly the game punishes dying and the main point is some people want an easier mode.

I know you can farm a lot of currency on softcore, but I'm not a divines/h oriented player. If I tried to sell gear and every possible bubblegum currency I would actually lose my mind kek

I just casually sell expensive scarabs and cards with Faustus, and do whatever else like random sanctum or strongboxes in t16s(or bosses and get a nice watcher's eye/forbidden flame or something I dunno), I had 5000 chaos in my stash at one point this league, now I have 2500 chaos and 200 divines because of 50 mil crop shipments, but that doesn't mean that some players don't value 50c as a lot. I know that it's a good amount of currency for the average casual, because I was one and still kind of am lol(I just get lucky drops every league and kinda passively build up divines from spamming sanctum/t16s/bosses). I never really plan out a strat or anything, nor do I calculate profits in divs per hour because a map can take me 5 mins or 30 mins.


It's really as simple as: the omen of amelloration or whatever its called is too weak because of its once-per-zone use and its also too expensive because people don't do ritual for their exp strat so barely any for sale, they do stuff like breach+beyond+evolving shrine. Or they just afk in a 5-way legion rota.

This is why people also miss the exp shrine scarab, it actually gave you a fun way to grind to 100, even I could do it in 30 maps to get 99-100 and got like 2 sets of The Fortunate doing it, it was the most fun lvl100 grind I had ever done in this game, but now that the scarab is deleted Sanctum is the only viable option for players like me.
Last edited by Toforto on Oct 4, 2024, 3:26:41 PM
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Toforto wrote:
No need to post pob screenshots of people's characters lol, this thread isn't discussing any of that, its simply about how harshly the game punishes dying and the main point is some people want an easier mode.

I know you can farm a lot of currency on softcore, but I'm not a divines/h oriented player. If I tried to sell gear and every possible bubblegum currency I would actually lose my mind kek

I just casually sell expensive scarabs and cards with Faustus, and do whatever else like random sanctum or strongboxes in t16s(or bosses and get a nice watcher's eye/forbidden flame or something I dunno), I had 5000 chaos in my stash at one point this league, now I have 2500 chaos and 200 divines because of 50 mil crop shipments, but that doesn't mean that some players don't value 50c as a lot. I know that it's a good amount of currency for the average casual, because I was one and still kind of am lol(I just get lucky drops every league and kinda passively build up divines from spamming sanctum/t16s/bosses). I never really plan out a strat or anything, nor do I calculate profits in divs per hour because a map can take me 5 mins or 30 mins.


It's really as simple as: the omen of amelloration or whatever its called is too weak because of its once-per-zone use and its also too expensive because people don't do ritual for their exp strat so barely any for sale, they do stuff like breach+beyond+evolving shrine. Or they just afk in a 5-way legion rota.

This is why people also miss the exp shrine scarab, it actually gave you a fun way to grind to 100, even I could do it in 30 maps to get 99-100 and got like 2 sets of The Fortunate doing it, it was the most fun lvl100 grind I had ever done in this game, but now that the scarab is deleted Sanctum is the only viable option for players like me.


lol no
when you run around t16s with 10k ehp you dont get to complain the the game needs an easy mode
thats like running around with an unlinked skill and complaining that mobs are too tanky

this is just a player who refuses to play the game properly
nothing more

0 armour 0 evasion 0 block 0 suppress not even max chaos res no overcap resists to combat curse or exposure

i bet he dies 5x a map and rightfully so
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Last edited by RitualMurder on Oct 4, 2024, 3:35:36 PM
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lol no
when you run around t16s with 10k ehp you dont get to complain the the game needs an easy mode
thats like running around with an unlinked skill and complaining that mobs are too tanky

this is just a player who refuses to play the game properly
nothing more


I'm not even talking about my build. Who cares what someone plays or how big a number is on pob, you can't just dismiss someone's feedback based on that. And it's not at all like using an unlinked skill kek

And I'll explain how my build works in t16s:
Mobs in t16s just get frozen and off-screened anyway, it's fine like 90% of the time until a random oneshot happens or I flamedash into a spawning influence pack or something. Don't need defenses when I just freeze,blind and shatter every enemy with 35 mil freezing pulse dps.
And I'm curse immune so no I don't need any more than exactly 75% resistances lol
Chaos res is also just completely optional

I just think having way too much dps is fun, that's all.
Last edited by Toforto on Oct 4, 2024, 3:40:18 PM
No thanks. What you're looking for already exists, you can play it here: https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/

Besides some people already said it, Softcore and Standard is a thing. Doesn't get more casual than this with a decades worth of power creep and then some.
Last edited by Ulsarek on Oct 4, 2024, 3:39:34 PM
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Toforto wrote:
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lol no
when you run around t16s with 10k ehp you dont get to complain the the game needs an easy mode
thats like running around with an unlinked skill and complaining that mobs are too tanky

this is just a player who refuses to play the game properly
nothing more


I'm not even talking about my build. Who cares what someone plays or how big a number is on pob, you can't just dismiss someone's feedback based on that. And it's not at all like using an unlinked skill kek

And I'll explain how my build works in t16s:
Mobs in t16s just get frozen and off-screened anyway, it's fine like 90% of the time until a random oneshot happens or I flamedash into a spawning influence pack or something. Don't need defenses when I just freeze,blind and shatter every enemy with 35 mil freezing pulse dps.

I just think having way too much dps is fun, that's all.


and thats fine and thats a choice you make
you choose to be a glass cannon
that doesnt mean there should be a game mode for you to play glass cannon without consequences
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and thats fine and thats a choice you make
you choose to be a glass cannon
that doesnt mean there should be a game mode for you to play glass cannon without consequences


If you want consequences hardcore exists, so there really is no reason for stuff like the exp penalty to be in this game.
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Ulsarek wrote:
No thanks. What you're looking for already exists, you can play it here: https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/

Besides some people already said it, Softcore and Standard is a thing. Doesn't get more casual than this with a decades worth of power creep and then some.

100%


I also like the "well they made ruthless so why not make easy mode?" argument as well.

It shows a complete lack of understanding on why and how ruthless mode was even created.

Ruthless was a passion project by 2 developers to return some of the scarcity and decision making of classic POE, back into the game. It wasnt made because a bunch of people flocked in asking "we want harder mode"

Chris fully supported this as he has always, and originally designed, this game to have challenging and engaging play.

So asking for easy mode, "because they made ruthless mode", shows a complete lack of knowledge on the reason ruthless was made, and the entire core play of Path of Exile in general (not surprising)
Mash the clean
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Toforto wrote:
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and thats fine and thats a choice you make
you choose to be a glass cannon
that doesnt mean there should be a game mode for you to play glass cannon without consequences


If you want consequences hardcore exists, so there really is no reason for stuff like the exp penalty to be in this game.


hard disagree
d4 sounds like the game you should play has everything you are asking for
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