Iron Reflexes or not?

For Aegis Aurora builds, I'd go with Iron Reflexes. You want to be hit by as many small hits as possible. If you want evasion, better use another shield.

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6_din_49 wrote:

For Aegis Aurora builds, I'd go with Iron Reflexes. You want to be hit by as many small hits as possible. If you want evasion, better use another shield.

The problem is their build makes use of Versatile Combatant which is also quite counterproductive for Aegis as it limits your chances to block.
They also don't make use of the all resistance with a melding which at this point it would be better to not path down to iron reflexes at all and make use of evasion as it's already more dominant on their pathing and Ascendancy.

Items like Svalinn would be more handy in this case or any other rare shield to boost either damage or survivability.

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i get +17K armor with iron reflexes. i think thats pretty good for just 1 point investment, but to each their own.

You waste quite a lot of points to path down to the keystone just to grab 17k armor. Any evasion and spell suppression defense would perform better at a already cheap cost since you're playing trickster anyways.
But the 17k already gives a glimpse of information that there's a lot of wrong pathing and bad choices within your build, no real surprise cause you just tried to copy a mageblood build without a mageblood, but each on their own :)

people dont path down there just for that one keystone. they path don to grab all the block nodes and versatile combatant and since this node is right there, they grab this also. what other point would help him out so much with just a single point investment? he probably already has 100% suppress anyway since trickster can easily get it.

as for my build what would you even know about it? you have never seen it. also there is no such thing as a mageblood build. its just a luxury item people throw on for extra defenses. you act like its a build enabling item or something. your constant attacks towards me all over the forums are quite amusing. :)

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

people dont path down there just for that one keystone. they path don to grab all the block nodes and versatile combatant and since this node is right there

Also straight up a bait trap as you waste so many points for it and also limit your chances to block, which you've guessed it you want block with a aegis and also utilize the max cold res along the way.

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he probably already has 100% suppress anyway since trickster can easily get it

unfortunately he's not capped and taking the spell suppression wheel on the way would already help him more than all the pathing down to the rock bottom of the tree.

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as for my build what would you even know about it? you have never seen it.

No but you've made plenty of complains about performance and whatnot across the forum and it's not really hard to paint a picture out of that as a more experienced player. Just the 17K armor alone does sound suspicious as the tree alone and flasks should provide you with more than just 17k evasion, but I do assume that your friends mageblood version of the build skips most of all defensive passives on the tree to go all down just on flasks. Personally a bad way to create a build but the results do speak for themselves cause you'd be happy with your build and not complain about dying all the time in one topic and also complain about something else in a different topic in the help section with the focus on your build.

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also there is no such thing as a mageblood build. its just a luxury item people throw on for extra defenses. you act like its a build enabling item or something

Wrong, you can create a build focused on this item with the pure purpose to fix your lack of defenses on gear or other stuff that you can get on flasks. In the end you open up affixes on your other gear slots allowing you to build setups differently. And if you go this approach you can't just ditch the belt and expect the same outcome with the same gear as the build does not function properly without the mageblood. In the end yes you can make a mageblood only builds or mageblood versions of a build. It's not just a "slap on some better flasks and all is gucci" luxury item, at least not if you have some basic knowledge about the game.

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your constant attacks towards me all over the forums are quite amusing. :)

Providing proper feedback to the OP's question is not a personal attack. It's also not a personal attack if I take your bad advice as reference to prevent them to do bad choices.
Maybe you should take your time and learn some of the games basics so that you don't feel offended every time someone proves you wrong, or tells you that something is wrong with your build.
Or at the very least don't try to confuse other help seeking players while you also feel insecure about your own build. Giving them bad advise ain't gonna really help them.

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Pashid wrote:

Providing proper feedback to the OP's question is not a personal attack. It's also not a personal attack if I take your bad advice as reference to prevent them to do bad choices.
Maybe you should take your time and learn some of the games basics so that you don't feel offended every time someone proves you wrong, or tells you that something is wrong with your build.

but bringing my build into it and trashing it when you have never even seen it is a personal attack. not to mention bringing up arguments from old threads that were already resolved long ago. i took a bad map mod. that was the only issue

also belittling me and acting like i gave some really dumb advice is another personal attack towards me. there as nothing wrong with my advice. all the top players on poeninja have that same tree and pathing. but i guess all those people are wrong also, right? and you are smarter than everyone when you dont even play this build. and before you say those people use a mageblood,so does OP so he can copy what they do :)

OP- dont listen to this guy. if you look on poeninja everyone is taking those nodes. he just has a personal vendetta against me and is now trying to hijack this thread

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

also belittling me and acting like i gave some really dumb advice is another personal attack towards me. there as nothing wrong with my advice. all the top players on poeninja have that same tree and pathing. but i guess all those people are wrong also, right? and you are smarter than everyone when you dont even play this build. and before you say those people use a mageblood,so does OP so he can copy what they do :)

For beginners there is a lot of bait builds on PoE ninja.
Also a lot of players on there using it actually do gain large benefits out of it as they gain more than just 17k armor or the little amount OP gains out of it.
There are simply better ways to build a trickster if you don't utilize the keystone properly and convert a huge amount of evasion into armor and also don't make use of the maximum resistance on the aegis itself with a melding.
I've checked up OP's character and the little amount of their build makes it really inefficient to path all the way down and play with the shield.
Your build somehow has even less evasion than OP so suggesting them something with little return is a bad advice.

Also op is using a crystal rare belt, is that some kind of new hidden mageblood feature?

thats your opinion. i can have mine without someone bringing my character into it even though they have never even seen it. i looked at his character just now and he has taken iron reflexes so he already followed the right advice anyway so further discussion of this is pointless.

Op has mentioned that he did tried both without a notable difference, which is not really a surprise giving the little gain.
Giving that the topic exists it doesn't seem like they really settled on either or.

Best for op would be to invest into spell suppression cap as this would be a better defensive gain instead of wasting the passives to dive down for a little bit of armor and block.
It's only worth it with a good investment into evasion and just a not really returning investment on low budget.
Sticking up at the area of shadow and digging some into the witch area would also provide you with more ES, which helps to gain more damage as well while raising your actual ehp.

@OP i had another look and it seems like you are missing the ghost reaver keystone. that is crucial for your build since you rely on leech a lot. you use the shavronne ring so you cant regen or recharge ES anyway so you might as well take the keystone

switching out one step ahead to spellbreaker in the ascendancy and taking inveterate on the tree and the lucky spell suppress in mastery would also help a lot. note that you dont need to remove iron reflexes or the block nodes for this. all the top builds on poenija that use aegis take those nodes. it would only make sense not to path down that way if you stopped using aegis and switched to a pure ES shield.